[Bells]

Originally posted by Lil-Lindz
I know makes you wanan just go and die Lol
That sounds really morbid I know but every time i hear it I cry cause those women didnt do anything wrong and some skanky man just killed them for no reason
That man makes me fell sick

I cried a bit too Lindz. It's terrible.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by ice_maiden02
I actually heard from some people he didn't rape them though? Not too sure, might need to check links to clarify. Because browsing through some of your posts, you're saying he did.
Urgh that's even more terrible!!!

Not sure either, I think the first two were but the third wasnt she was just suffercated...... there are some real sicko's out there

[Lil-Lindz]

Yea, i hate the news it makes me depressed, why do so many bad things happen

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Lil-Lindz
Yea, i hate the news it makes me depressed, why do so many bad things happen

Thats mankind I'm affraid!!!!!

[Chrizzle]

I'm a bit worried for the woman in Suffolk.
Im surprised this hasn't been put on more News or newspapers on a bigger scale. Its much more serious than what the news are making out.

[~Kizwiz~]

Its only really picked up pace to be honest.

[~Kizwiz~]

Interesting news article

BBC News

[Chrizzle]

How many bodies have been found?

[BigSister]

5 so far chris

[~Kizwiz~]

Here are some of the key events in the police investigation.

7 NOVEMBER
Police in Suffolk say they are "extremely concerned" about the disappearance of prostitute Tania Nicol. She went missing after leaving her home in Ipswich, Suffolk, on 30 October.

Her mother Kerry appealed for information on her whereabouts and said it was unusual for her not to be in touch with her family.


15 NOVEMBER
Police launched a further appeal for information on the whereabouts of a second missing prostitute in Ipswich.

Gemma Adams, 25, from Blenheim Road in the town was reported missing by her partner after she failed to return home from work.


2 DECEMBER
A member of the public finds a naked body in a brook at Hintlesham, Suffolk.


3 DECEMBER
Detectives launch a major inquiry after the body is formally identified as missing prostitute Miss Adams.

Her death raises fears for the safety of Miss Nicol.

Both women disappeared from the same area and detectives say there are "obvious similarities" between the two cases.


4 DECEMBER
Specialist teams start searching in the area where the body was found.


8 DECEMBER
A second naked body is found by police divers searching an area near Copdock Mill, near Ipswich.


9 DECEMBER
Police confirm that the second body is that of Miss Nicol.

Her body was discovered in the same stretch of water as that of Miss Adams, say police, but around two miles away.

Det Supt Andy Henwood says there were "obvious similarities" between the two deaths.


10 DECEMBER
Police announce that the body of a third prostitute has been found raising further fears that a serial killer is targeting women in the area.

Officers are called to Nacton, near Ipswich, at 1520 GMT after a member of the public discovers the woman's body in woodland.

Police say the body is of a woman in her 20s.

Detectives say it is too early to say whether the third death is linked to the murders of Miss Adams and Miss Nicol.


11 DECEMBER
Police say they are concerned for two other missing women.

Paula Clennell, aged 24, has not been seen since late on Saturday, and Annette Nicholls, aged 29, went missing on December 4.

Assistant Chief Constable Jacqui Cheer warns prostitutes to "stay off the streets" for their own safety.

Police describe the discovery of the third body as a "deeply disturbing development" and that while they are unable to formally link the discovery of the body at Nacton with the two murders, "the facts speak for themselves".


12 DECEMBER
Police discover two more bodies near the village of Levington, five miles south of Ipswich.

Det Ch Supt Stewart Gull said: "I have to fear the worst. Sadly I fear these may be the bodies of Paula Clennell and Annette Nicholls."

Police investigating the murders of the three prostitutes near Ipswich release the name of the third victim, Anneli Alderton, 24, and say she was strangled.

Tests are being carried out to see if she was sexually assaulted.

BBC News

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by ice_maiden02
I actually heard from some people he didn't rape them though? Not too sure, might need to check links to clarify. Because browsing through some of your posts, you're saying he did.
Urgh that's even more terrible!!!

I wouldn't say he raped them... there hookers and they more then likely consented to sex before he killed them but theres always a possiblity i suppose... seeing as he actually killed them i think he's capable of anything!

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Tanser_Man

I wouldn't say he raped them... there hookers and they more then likely consented to sex before he killed them but theres always a possiblity i suppose... seeing as he actually killed them i think he's capable of anything!

I doubt that they would have had consented to sex if they knew he would kill them. You can guarantee he didnt pay them!!!!

[Bells]

Yeah, I was just wondering if anyone had any links that's all. Because I realise they're prostitutes, although they might still have been raped as you say...
It's just that rumour's been going around he apparently didn't, he just...killed them.

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by kizwiz

I doubt that they would have had consented to sex if they knew he would kill them. You can guarantee he didnt pay them!!!!

Well if you think about it, he could have agreed to sex with her, gave her the money... done the deed, killed her and took his money back...

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Tanser_Man

Well if you think about it, he could have agreed to sex with her, gave her the money... done the deed, killed her and took his money back...

Well you never know, but I understand your point of how can you tell if it was consented or not...... its their job..... but I think that pathologists have a way of tell.ing... without getting into the nitty gritty.... a womans body reacts when it doesnt want something to be done

[Lil-Lindz]

Originally posted by Tanser_Man

Well if you think about it, he could have agreed to sex with her, gave her the money... done the deed, killed her and took his money back...

That may have been what happened but ive heard two of the girls were not sexually azssulted but im not sure about the others

[Bells]

Really kiz? How interesting.

[~Kizwiz~]

its a natural defense....... woman tense up..... causes more bruising..... sorry to be crude..... but well... theres no real nice way of saying it really

[Bells]

I see.

[Lil-Lindz]

Originally posted by kizwiz

Well you never know, but I understand your point of how can you tell if it was consented or not...... its their job..... but I think that pathologists have a way of tell.ing... without getting into the nitty gritty.... a womans body reacts when it doesnt want something to be done

Yea i think that can be done, hopefully they will find that the girls were sexually assulted as well cause that weill just press more charges against him
Allthough several murders is pretty bad

[Dan_]

Perhaps he's had a past experience of using a prostitute and hates himself for it so lashes out that way, that's one theory a guy on the radio came up with.

[Corkie]

One of the alleged missing dead hooker had an interview with itv news before she went missing she said she was worried about stepping into a stranger car more then ever but she needed the money, if she did step into the car it might have been a regular person she knew.

[Lauren]

None of the women showed sexual activity prior to the murder. He didn't rape them, but there's a simple explanation for this - it cuts off any DNA link to them.

And I don't think women in Suffolk should be too afraid - he only seems to be going for "ladies of the night".

[Siouxsie]

Originally posted by Lil-Lindz
Yea, i hate the news it makes me depressed, why do so many bad things happen

yep your right and it always seems to be at christmas time season of goodwill and all of that. yuk it makes me puke

[lily.]

I'm watching sky news this morning. They are going to officially identify the last two bodies later today, then release the names. But, I think we all know it's gonna be those poor girls who have been reported missing.

It's shocking. This is one of the reasons I think prostitution should be legalised so that safeguards can be put in place for the working girls. If there were saunas/brothels with regulations, then the girls would be in a much safer situation.. although, it's argued that they wouldn't be able to make as much money as they do on the street.

I would say these girls have to be pretty desperate to choose prostitution as a means of making money... I think the fact that so many of them are still out on the street knowing this killer is on the loose shows the level of desperation they are at.

Watching the news this morning, and seeing the police presence in the Ipswich area makes me wonder if he will move on to another city soon. I guess the girls aren't safe anywhere. Very sad.