[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MB.

But it says a lot about a party in the sense of who they'd allow to represent them.

they dont - the minute anyone comes out with a view of that nature ukip kick them out.

nigel is very quick compared to the other parties

[MB.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

they dont - the minute anyone comes out with a view of that nature ukip kick them out.

nigel is very quick compared to the other parties

Explain that to Roger Helmer, David Coburn and the many others who are still members of UKIP despite the things they've said.

Still, the fact that they kick people out isn't what's important - it's that they allow them reach high positions in their party in the first place.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MB.

Explain that to Roger Helmer, David Coburn and the many others who are still members of UKIP despite the things they've said.

Still, the fact that they kick people out isn't what's important - it's that they allow them reach high positions in their party in the first place.

why what do you think they have said that should get them the sack

or at least what does google tell you?

[Jack_]

should've been a public poll #exposeem

[Withano]

I don't understand how UKIP supporters aren't seeing the constant stories that I'm seeing which shows their party members as genuinely homophobic and/or racist because it makes literally zero sense for them to have the support that they do.

To me, even agreeing with all of their policies wouldn't be reason enough to vote for genuinely evil people into any type of power. It just screams well written Neo-Nazism to me.

Sorry for asking for opinions and then moaning about them, I just didn't see any reasons that I deemed valid enough in the comment section for anybody to vote for these people! It baffles me.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Withano

I don't understand how UKIP supporters aren't seeing the constant stories that I'm seeing which shows their party members as genuinely homophobic and/or racist because it makes literally zero sense for them to have the support that they do.

To me, even agreeing with all of their policies wouldn't be reason enough to vote for genuinely evil people into any type of power. It just screams well written Neo-Nazism to me.

Sorry for asking for opinions and then moaning about them, I just didn't see any reasons that I deemed valid enough in the comment section for anybody to vote for these people! It baffles me.

They see it but they agree with it believe it or not. UKIP serve a purpose they are good at exposing racists and homophobes for some reason when it comes to UKIP these types of people feel comfortable enough to finally come out and expose themselves for what they really are.
The BNP and EDL were a bit too scary for anybody to support openly as are Britain First but UKIP do just enough to hide what they really stand for and as crazy as it is to most people the same people that secretly supported them feel relaxed enough to openly support UKIP.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bobnot

They see it but they agree with it believe it or not. UKIP serve a purpose they are good at exposing racists and homophobes for some reason when it comes to UKIP these types of people feel comfortable enough to finally come out and expose themselves for what they really are.

"they see it but they agree with it believe it or not"

are you some sort of supernatural mind reader?

lol

[billy123]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"they see it but they agree with it believe it or not"

are you some sort of supernatural mind reader?

lol

Last time i checked the thread wasnt about me or what i am. Stick to the topic.
Is personal attacks really all you have left? Pffft.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Last time i checked the thread wasnt about me or what i am. Stick to the topic.
Is personal attacks really all you have left? Pffft.

then do not pretend to know the minds of thousands of people if you wish to be taken seriously in this section

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by bobnot

They see it but they agree with it believe it or not. UKIP serve a purpose they are good at exposing racists and homophobes for some reason when it comes to UKIP these types of people feel comfortable enough to finally come out and expose themselves for what they really are.
The BNP and EDL were a bit too scary for anybody to support openly as are Britain First but UKIP do just enough to hide what they really stand for and as crazy as it is to most people the same people that secretly supported them feel relaxed enough to openly support UKIP.

Exactly - they feel justified because there's a party that agrees with them.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by bobnot

The BNP and EDL were a bit too scary for anybody to support openly as are Britain First but UKIP do just enough to hide what they really stand for and as crazy as it is to most people the same people that secretly supported them feel relaxed enough to openly support UKIP.

Yeah, I agree. I'd put all 4 groups in the same family. UKIP is just the smarter child.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Withano

I don't understand how UKIP supporters aren't seeing the constant stories that I'm seeing which shows their party members as genuinely homophobic and/or racist because it makes literally zero sense for them to have the support that they do.

To me, even agreeing with all of their policies wouldn't be reason enough to vote for genuinely evil people into any type of power. It just screams well written Neo-Nazism to me.

Sorry for asking for opinions and then moaning about them, I just didn't see any reasons that I deemed valid enough in the comment section for anybody to vote for these people! It baffles me.

It just screams well written Neo-Nazism to me.


jesus h christ

this thread is getting better and better

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It just screams well written Neo-Nazism to me.


jesus h christ

this thread is getting better and better

Yes Come Back to TIBB

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It just screams well written Neo-Nazism to me.


jesus h christ

this thread is getting better and better

I went through the trouble of defining neo-nazism for you
Whether you like it or not, UKIP have hired and payed many workers who fit directly under the definition:

Neo-Nazism borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, racism, ableism, xenophobia, homophobia, antisemitism

[MB.]

I wonder if there's anything in UKIP's manifesto against Google.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by MB.

I wonder if there's anything in UKIP's manifesto against Google.

No, which probably means it's not against it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MB.

I wonder if there's anything in UKIP's manifesto against Google.

well as it seems no one here has even bothered to glimpse at it based on all the posts

you will never know

[Rob!]

Oh and the UKIP manifesto is possibly one of the most obviously racist things I have ever seen. Giving businesses the right to only employ British people or to put British people first? In what way is that not racist?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Oh and the UKIP manifesto is possibly one of the most obviously racist things I have ever seen. Giving businesses the right to only employ British people or to put British people first? In what way is that not racist?

I guess you would have to take out that policy from the manifesto and prove it was racist rob.

so feel free

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lol

where?

show me one

Again?


UKIP is homophobic. Not only have far too many members of the party for them to be credible been recorded as saying the list that was posted further back in the thread, these people have also been allowed to keep their jobs. Despite the fact that "Nigel" has apparently said that he doesn't tolerate it. They also are the only party running for government that makes no mention whatsoever of LGBT rights and when questioned about this claims that gay people fall into the "special interest" category.

UKIP is racist. Sorry to say, but you're statement about "illegals" earlier followed by your adoration for them is enough to prove that to me. Plus, their manifesto is littered with so much passive racism like "British people being given priority over employment," that I can't believe that I'm having to explain it so many times.

Can you prove to me that their not either of the things that I am accusing them of?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Again?


UKIP is homophobic. Not only have far too many members of the party for them to be credible been recorded as saying the list that was posted further back in the thread, these people have also been allowed to keep their jobs. Despite the fact that "Nigel" has apparently said that he doesn't tolerate it. They also are the only party running for government that makes no mention whatsoever of LGBT rights and when questioned about this claims that gay people fall into the "special interest" category.

UKIP is racist. Sorry to say, but you're statement about "illegals" earlier followed by your adoration for them is enough to prove that to me. Plus, their manifesto is littered with so much passive racism like "British people being given priority over employment," that I can't believe that I'm having to explain it so many times.

Can you prove to me that their not either of the things that I am accusing them of?

I do not have to prove a negative. There is nothing in the manifesto that is racist, it has been scrutinised by the worlds media since launch as well as the other parties, universities and think tanks.

No one has found any racism so if you have it would be nothing short of a miracle

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I do not have to prove a negative. There is nothing in the manifesto that is racist, it has been scrutinised by the worlds media since launch as well as the other parties, universities and think tanks.

No one has found any racism so if you have it would be nothing short of a miracle

And yet I have to tell you again and again why I and so many other people think they are?

Ok.

[lily.]

Conservatives for me, because they are actually trying to stop the benefit scroungers who are currently better off than working people.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by lily.

Conservatives for me, because they are actually trying to stop the benefit scroungers who are currently better off than working people.

Do you really believe that there are many people on benefits that are scroungers? is that what a newspaper told you? Do the rich tax dodgers that steal billions upon billions more from our economy that dwarves what "benefit dodgers" take not worry you more?

[lily.]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Do you really believe that there are many people on benefits that are scroungers? is that what a newspaper told you? Do the rich tax dodgers that steal billions upon billions more from our economy that dwarves what "benefit dodgers" take not worry you more?

It has nothing to do with newspapers. It has to do with the people in the area where I live. I see it every day. I know they are dodging work. I know they aren't disabled. They freely admit it. Yet they get a free car, and a ****load of benefits.

I don't live in a particularly nice area.