[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

remember blair and "im not bovvered"?

Who can forget it.

[Kizzy]

That was for charity wasn't it?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That was for charity wasn't it?

Maybe - but EVERYTHING else THAT corrupt TORY POSTER BOY BLAIR did during his 12 year reign was for his own charity - The Personal Bank of Tony.

[Kizzy]

Drifting off topic a tad, let's talk about russ some more

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Drifting off topic a tad, let's talk about russ some more

I am seriously beginning to ADMIRE your single-minded OBSTINACY.

[Kizzy]

I just like to keep my threads orderly, no ranty tangents and waffle allowed

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I just like to keep my threads orderly, no ranty tangents and waffle allowed

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Very clever.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what a cheap disgusting video. compare that to the speech I posted that Farage made to the EU

One is a principled,educated, elected speech by an adult who wants to change things for the better

and one is an immature chancer in his bedroom talking bollocks


jesus fecking wept

ok in brands favour he again points out farage is privately educated and backed by a rich man...however by brands liberal standards isn't it wrong to judge a man by his background

brand is being overly liberal and overly politically correct in some ways which leads him to be bordering on disingenuous and ignoring the facts against....the net increase in population each year, the extre pressure this does put on services, the failure of our nhs t claim back on travel insurance probably runs to billions, the payment of benefits to immigrants children in other countries without paying into the system. farage has spent years exposing this and finally now its become politically correct to talk about it, the other parties are waking up....the liberal dogma has even meant the nhs in many cases doesn't allow the private insurance be used for people being cared for at home, instead the nhs foots the whole bill (or fights with social services on who pays) farage was wrongly shouted down by plaed cymru leader Leanne wood for asking about the fact 60% of aids injections are given to foreign visitors...is it a national health service or international? where do we draw the line

brand ignores the disaster of the European union, the endless double standards and different rules on immigration, health, taxes, benefits etc etc
I agree with brand on many things , don't we all? the corporate control, the different rules for the elite, etc but farage fights the EU AND THE EU has kept people poor and countries bankrupt.....the reality is the politically correct drive of new labour working class people poorer. liberals including brand have failed to acknowledge that let alone understand it. why doesn't he preach about vat too, that's the enslavement tax that's stops competition and prevents the little guy taking some power from the monopoly

[Kizzy]

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Greens

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

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Greens

yes and the actual bailing out of the banks was done by new labour

[Kizzy]

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Cameron is threatening your children; NO JOKE!.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

yes and the actual bailing out of the banks was done by new labour

I don't know what else could be done at least in some way, when the banking crisis hit, peoples savings and accounts had to be protected.

I have no doubt at all, with the exception maybe of Northern Rock, that a Conservative,(or indeed any makeup of govt), would have in the end bailed the banks out.

As sickening as it was to see done,I feel there was little choice.

[Jack_]

Thought the Miliband interview was decent, kudos to him for doing it

Anyone seen the trailer they've released today though for Monday? Apparently there's a part they edited out and they're effectively teasing in the video that Russell is about to go back on the whole 'I don't vote' thing and perhaps endorse Labour. Probably won't be that but I would be ecstatic if so, or for the Greens

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Thought the Miliband interview was decent, kudos to him for doing it

Anyone seen the trailer they've released today though for Monday? Apparently there's a part they edited out and they're effectively teasing in the video that Russell is about to go back on the whole 'I don't vote' thing and perhaps endorse Labour. Probably won't be that but I would be ecstatic if so, or for the Greens

I understand he has said people should vote to keep Caroline Lucas for the Greens in Brighton.

I saw nothing wrong at all with Ed Miliband doing the meeting or the contents of it either.

[Kizzy]

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Oooohhh.... Xcitin

[Kizzy]

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Here are some more quotes from Russell Brand’s video.
What Miliband said to win over Russell Brand

In his video Russell Brand said he was persuaded to back Labour by what Ed Miliband said about his support for grassroots activism. (See 1.13pm.) Today Brand played a clip from what Miliband said in their interview last week that was not included in the edited version of the interview Brand released on Wednesday. (See 12.49am.) Here is the key quote in it from Miliband, in which Miliband explains his belief in the importance of politicians listening to what activists say.

One of the things that strikes me, and this is how we are trying to change the Labour party - and I think we’ve been actually quite successful at this - is that you’ve got to have a politics rooted in communities. The Tories are a virtual party these days. They exist with advertising and money, but they don’t have people ... Let me give you an example, the living wage. The living wage campaign did not come out of policy wonks. It came out of people in the 1970s in America in workplaces saying a living wage is the idea that if you go out to work, you should be able to live on that wage.

Brand said he had been won over by Ed Miliband saying that, as prime minister, he would welcome and respond to pressure from grassroots activists.
One thing I agree very sincerely with Ed on is that politics does not rain down on us. It comes from below. Movements putting pressure on governments. We don’t know that the limitations of the Labour administration are going to be. But we have just heard the leader of the Labour party saying that he welcomes and wants pressure from below. For me, what the interview meant is that Ed Miliband understands that people are pissed off, people have had enough of their needs being neglected because of the requirements of big business.

He said that, although he was known for not voting, he did believe people should be politically engaged day in, day, out, not just at elections. That is what democracy should be about, he said.
I know I have been Mr Don’t Vote. But, actually, what I mean is politics isn’t something that we can just be involved in every five years. Democracy is by every day, not just for elections. Democracy has to be something you are constantly involved in, whether you are students occupying your university, whether you are communities coming together to reclaim your housing, whether you are people running worker-led cooperatives. We have to confront big business. We have to confront people who are tearing apart London and socially cleansing.

He said he was urging people to back Ed Miliband because “he will listen”.
What I heard Ed Miliband say is, if we speak, he will listen. so, on that basis, I think we’ve got no choice but to take decisive action to end the danger of the Conservative party.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...os-second-vote

[Kizzy]

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[the truth]

brand I don't give a stuff what you have to say to 10 million impressionable twitterers....ive wasted some time listening to your rants and calling ed balls a ***** yet here you are voting for the men who bankrupted us and sold us out to Europe who in turn bankrupted half the continent... and took us into illegal wars and allowed mass abuse in the nhs and made the gap between rich and poor bigger than for 200 years....oh and lead the liberal agenda to go easy on drugs so we now have some of the biggest drug related crime figures in the world. brand youre a crap actor, an awful presenter, a vein egotist and a fake campaigner who sold his soul...get stuffed

[Kizzy]

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How apt is my sig today

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

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How apt is my sig today

totally inapt....labour were in bed with Murdoch too

[Kizzy]

Did you watch the vid?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Did you watch the vid?

Did he bugger.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Did you watch the vid?

yeah absolutely nothing original in it.....trashed Murdoch as evil which of course he is, but ignored the fact labour were in bed with him too....labour allowed him to build his empires even bigger, labour saw monopolies grow and the wealth gap grow, labour were in bed with brooks and the spin doctors galore...he conveniently forget labour took us into illegals wars killing 100s of thousands on a pack of lies partly by another spin doctor Alistair Campbell......the sun is pernicious rag, though the pro labour rags are just as bad by covering up the atrocities in the public sector

as I said brand is totally over rated and up his own anus

[kirklancaster]

[QUOTE=Kizzy;7735698]

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I'm sorry, but the more I watch and listen to these videos, the more I cannot escape the fact that Brand is a not only a BUFFOON, but a very DANGEROUS BUFFOON because of the sheer amount of BUFFOONS who blindly follow him and hang on every piece of over-simplistic puerile tosh which emanates from his infantile mouth.

This child - I cannot call someone who is so mentally immature a MAN - is nothing but an egotist who spouts nonsensical rhetoric from a position of ignorance.

You ask 'The Truth'; ''Did you watch the vid?'', well I ask you; ''Did you watch the vid from a position of objective impartiality? Did you cut through the superficial juvenile tosh and actually analyse this and see it for the utter rubbish which it is?

The fact that you support Brand and constantly post these videos allows me to answer my own question; 'No you didn't', because if you had, you would not now be holding up this particular video as any kind of positive to convince others that Brand has anything intelligent or constructive to say other than some truths which we already know, and some inane 'revolutionary clap-trap' which plagiarist Brand has resurrected, recycled, and repackaged to pass off as his own 'revolutionary claptrap'.

In the first place; Brand DOES NOT VOTE, and is NOT REGISTERED TO VOTE, and should not therefore be given any kind of platform which helps 'legitimise' this moron's political views by a prospective future Prime Minister such as Milliband who is supposed to be a serious politician.

In the second place, Brand - who has spent years urging his looney followers NOT TO VOTE - now does a complete 360 degree about turn and urges them to VOTE LABOUR after only the briefest time in Milliban's company, and after being 'moved' by 'something' which Milliband said during that time.

'It doesn't take much to change a small mind that's touched.' does it Russell?

This 'about face' is nothing new for Brand - a fool who operates his stupid mouth without engaging any brain cells he might have - because he has had to do a 'U Turn' at other times - - most notably amid cringe-makingly embarrassingly when he wrote a hastily concocted article entitled;'' “Why I Oppose Anti-Semitism.” after being universally condemned for his ill-informed, juvenile, anti-Semitic rants against Israel and his call for a boycott targeting companies doing business with the Jewish state.

Just listen to the moron: He doesn't hate Jews because he once dropped acid at a Passover seder. He cried about the Holocaust. He thought had he been born earlier he could have been a Nazi gassing Jews. He did not INTEND to attack Israel.

Even Brand's comments about the ''First Political Rally'' which he attended in London for the striking Liverpool dockers in the late 1990s, are very revealing about the TRUE (lack of) intellect of this cretin:

“There were police horses galloping up Charing Cross Road, people ripping up pavements. I didn't think ‘About time, too – the Liverpool dockers are finally being heard here.’ I thought, ‘****in’ hell, this is brilliant.’” He related to it on a personal level. “The internal mayhem I'm feeling is spilling out everywhere. I loved it, and felt very connected to activism – particularly activism that feels loaded with potential. Not the oppositional activism that seems like there’s a stasis around it – earnestly sincere, but a monolith equal to the establishment.”

Oh, I could fill a hundred pages on the imbecility of this chump. But back to this all-revealing video:

When analysed, this video of Brand's - as all his others - is nothing more than an embarrassing obsequious squirm-fest of fallacies and lies.

In true false propaganda fashion, Brand DELIBERATELY lies when he states:

''According to Nigel Farage ALL of the problems in this country are the result of unskilled migrant labour.''

What an imbecilic LIAR. Farage DOES NOT claim that ALL the problems of this country are the result of unskilled Migrant Labour.

Farage CORRECTLY claims that unfettered immigration is but ONE of the CONTRIBUTARY reasons for this country's ECONOMIC, SOCIAL, and POLITICAL problems, because, under the highly caustic terms of our MEMBERSHIP of THE EUROPEAN UNION, we are FORCED to accomodate uncontrolled millions of immigrants (over 450 million from Europe alone who have the LEGAL RIGHT to come to live in the UK if they choose to), and are FORCED to legally SUSTAIN them and HOUSE and EDUCATE them, and FORCED to allow them to benefit from our NHS and Police and other services TO THE COST OF OUR OWN PEOPLE.

Brand's claims that immigrants contributed 20 billion pounds to the UK coffers last year, is pure unsubstantiated bunkum whose source is from those with a vested interest in remaining within the EU and in maintaining our 'Open Door' immigration policy - the very same, fabulously wealthy multi-National corporations who Brand the idiot is supposedly vehemently opposed to.

Those 'statistics' are the result of convoluted machievallian manipulating and have been countered by several respected authorities.

As for Brand's use of the fact that '' 30,000 Brits left Britain to claim abroad'' as some sort of justification for unfettered immigration into the UK - this is laughable:

Ordinary, decent, hard-working, hard-pressed WORKING people have roots; families, homes, debts, jobs, ties - they CANNOT just TAKE OFF for foreign climes and a more leisurely, care-free subsidised lifestyle in the sun , though I am CERTAIN that they would ALL love to be able to, so, FAR FROM Brand's statistic justifying our membership of the corrupt and crazy EU - IT INDICTS IT.

Obviously the majority these 30,000 'EMIGRANTS' are NOT ill or disabled (well NOT SO ILL OR DISABLED that it stops them being able to uproot, move and live in a foreign country). Obviously these 30,000 are claimants because there ARE NO JOBS for them in the UK. (well, APART from ALL THE JOBS which according to pro-EU and pro-Immigant supporters all the HARD-WORKING IMMIGRANTS into the UK manage to find and are doing).

Obviously - SOMETHING IS WRONG with Brand's and the EU supporters statistics and viewpoints.

If there WERE/ARE jobs within the UK which immigrants have filled in sufficient numbers to have contributed 20 BILLION POUNDS to the UK economy (AND THIS AFTER DEDUCTING THE COST OF IMMIGRANTS TO THE UK, REMEMBER) then obviously there WERE jobs available for the 30,000 malingering scrounging bastards who CHOSE to remain on benefits and who have CHOSEN a life in the sun to boot.

(Incidentally - THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE EU COUNTRY WHICH HAS JOBS GOING BEGGING FOR EVEN THEIR OWN PEOPLE, so IT IS PATENTLY OBVIOUS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THESE SCROUNGING BASTARDS HAVE NOT 'EMIGRATED' TO FIND WORK and a LIFE MORE PRODUCTIVE.)

Any idiotic system which allows such abuse by work-shy scroungers at the cost to hard-pressed ordinary tax-payers is to be condemned - as Nigel Farage condems it - without having to suffer imbecilic idiots such as Brand LYING about them.

Ironically, no one fits the statements below from Brand better than Brand himself:

''This is actually the nub of propaganda - to take people's emotional feelings and tie it through arbitrary means such as music and image to economic policies that do not relate in any way to the things that these people are saying''.

And if anyone really needed proof of egotist Brand's 'Messiah' self-delusions,here he is yet again, with another 'Freudian' slip:

''Even though I have cultivated my look and to some degree my identity on looking like some giddy err, fast talking SAVIOUR character''.

What an ABSOLUTE PRICK.

I implore any truly impartial FM who is interested in the TRUTH, to WATCH this video and SEE for themselves just how poor Ed Milliband SQUIRMS wth embarrassment as he tries to reign in imbecile Brand's over simplistic crapola and how he repeatedly struggles to correct him and stil remain polite;

7.55 Brand is in full flow and Ed is visibly squirming but tries from 8.32 to 8.43 to interject to halt Brand's runaway train of drivel, and once he succeeds, he does nothing but correct him:

''I don't think we can just kick over the traces right? we can't just say...''

When Brand resumes with his idiotic banality, it is with a statement which MAKES NO SENSE at all:

''Hasn't it gotta be, that if the interests of the banks start getting put before the interests of the people - Bank's suffer?'

Poor Ed responds with a patently fake embarrassed laugh, before embarrassingly dismissing Brand's over-simplistic garbage:

''That's one way of putting it''.

Before completely distancing himself from Brand's embarrassing nonsense:

''Now look...'' ''You can't just say...'''we've got to have a banking system..''

At 19.17 of this infantile squirm-Fest, hypocrite Brand once again puts his expensively shoed Capitalist foot firmly in his fake liberal-left mouth;

''Rupert Murdoch don't vote, yet somehow he gets to decide who runs our country.''

And Ed, once again self-consciously corrects moron Brand:

''I don't think he does decide any more.''

Brand conveniently forgets that the 'Show' business which has made him a multi-millionaire, is just another facet of 'Business'- that bedrock of Capitalism which he so detests. Yes,BUSINESS - where one side have something to SELL for the HIGHEST possible PROFIT - be it Goods, Services or Talents - and one side wants to BUY. As an Entertainer, Brand 'sold' his 'mundane' talents for OTT fees thus becoming a multi-millionaire out of this branch of the good old CAPITALIST system.

I have yet to see him return all these millions in self-flagellating disgust with himself.

Brand hoodwinks the Liberal Leftie YOOF who follow him because they do not look beyond his razzmatazz B.S. but Brand is NO REVOLUTIONARY SAVIOUR - He is a HYPOCRITICAL MORON, and this video DOES NOTHING for Ed Milliband's reputation - in fact,were I an undecided voter,this would determine me NOT to vote Labour.