[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by BB6

She really wasn't

Nice people don't glass people in the face or threaten to slit someones throat.
Imagine if a man said that to woman.

Helen is a hateful person

Cami was just messy but funny, and you don't know the story behind the glass incident so.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Helen is a hateful person

Cami was just messy but funny, and you don't know the story behind the glass incident so.

She glassed her ex-boyfriend in the face, and was arrested for it.
I think everyone who's heard about it knows the story.

When was Cami ever loveable?
Every storyline she was involved in, featured aggressive threats, and foul language.

Helen was gobby and Cami was a thug.

Must say, I'm surprised your defending her as your an Alicia fan.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by BB6

She glassed her ex-boyfriend in the face, and was arrested for it.
I think everyone who's heard about it knows the story.

When was Cami ever loveable?
Every storyline she was involved in, featured aggressive threats, and foul language.

Helen was gobby and Cami was a thug.

Must say, I'm surprised your defending her as your an Alicia fan.

She wasn't loveable? She was funny though and to me brought more than just aggression, unlike Helen.

I don't even like Cami Li that much, but yes I will defend her when she's compared to the much worse Helen.

[Jason.]

I'm sorry. I'm fine with people having their opinion.

But supporting Cami-Li really is strange.

I wonder if you'd support a man who glassed a woman in the face. After all Conor was vilified for making a threat.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Helen is a hateful person

Cami was just messy but funny, and you don't know the story behind the glass incident so.

Exactly, and I took Cami as a cartoon parody of herself which made me support her. She was one of the most messy HMs in the past few years.

Who I support is really irrelevant to the whole debate of stereotypes anyway.

[Raph]

Every BBUK thread ends up being something to do with Ashleigh/Helen from last season, end of the day they along with everyone else from that season were all awful people and should never have been cast in the first place!!

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Raph

Every BBUK thread ends up being something to do with Ashleigh/Helen from last season, end of the day they along with everyone else from that season were all awful people and should never have been cast in the first place!!

No one was talking Ashleigh welp

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

No one was talking Ashleigh welp

I know. But the conversation was related to Ashleigh/Helen because Helen was involved. I was talking in the broader context, there's no need to be condescending, Daniel.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Raph

I know. But the conversation was related to Ashleigh/Helen because Helen was involved. I was talking in the broader context, there's no need to be condescending, Daniel.

Not everything related to Ashleigh is to do with Helen and vice versa...Helen was being talked about, not Ashleigh.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Not everything related to Ashleigh is to do with Helen and vice versa...Helen was being talked about, not Ashleigh.

I didn't say it was related to Ashleigh? I said conversations always end up being about Ashleigh/Helen (meaning or, not and).

[Cal.]

I think you should all shut up, vile beasts

[Cal.]

Bye Daniella

[Denver]

This thread is a mess

[Daniel.]

Conor the rapist

[Raph]

Also on the lines of women saying things and getting entirely away with them - Katie Hopkins making fun of Perez's penis? I mean emasculating him in the process to begin with but also being so uneducated that she has to resort to insults stuck in the gender binary, is disgusting.

Also if Grace was a guy and had chucked water all over Susie? Things would've been a lot different. Sexism is a brutal thing folks, and it works both ways.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Raph

Also on the lines of women saying things and getting entirely away with them - Katie Hopkins making fun of Perez's penis? I mean emasculating him in the process to begin with but also being so uneducated that she has to resort to insults stuck in the gender binary, is disgusting.

Also if Grace was a guy and had chucked water all over Susie? Things would've been a lot different. Sexism is a brutal thing folks, and it works both ways.

Agreed again.

It reminds me of Spitgate when Bex got in Mohamed's face, but when he stood his ground he was accused of "squaring up to a girl". None of the Whisper Club cretins even acnowledged that she got in his face to begin with.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Agreed again.

It reminds me of Spitgate when Bex got in Mohamed's face, but when he stood his ground he was accused of "squaring up to a girl". None of the Whisper Club cretins even acnowledged that she got in his face to begin with.

This.

It's like how women get away with flirting with younger males. See Edwina Currie, in IAC.

Yet, Chris in BB15 is branded all sorts just for being friends with a female housemate who is 18 years of age.
And I'm not even a fan of Chris.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by BB6

This.

It's like how women get away with flirting with younger males. See Edwina Currie, in IAC.

Yet, Chris in BB15 is branded all sorts just for being friends with a female housemate who is 18 years of age.
And I'm not even a fan of Chris.

The treatment Chris got was really unfair tbh

icr but didn't jemima flirt with Sam?

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

The treatment Chris got was really unfair tbh

icr but didn't jemima flirt with Sam?

Yes.
Exactly.

A woman does it, and it's seen as harmless cougar flirting.

If a man dares to do it, it's seen as dare I say it, creepy pedophilia, or something along the lines of that.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by BB6

This.

It's like how women get away with flirting with younger males. See Edwina Currie, in IAC.

Yet, Chris in BB15 is branded all sorts just for being friends with a female housemate who is 18 years of age.
And I'm not even a fan of Chris.

TBF Chris wanted more with Princess Pimple

[Daniel.]

welp

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

welp

Thanks for the intellectual contribution to the discussion about gender and sexism, Daniel!

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Raph

Thanks for the intellectual contribution to the discussion about gender and sexism, Daniel!

No problem

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Raph

Yeah personal insults aren't necessary, I honestly always find discourses about gender and sexism so incredibly important and interesting

Originally Posted by Raph

Thanks for the intellectual contribution to the discussion about gender and sexism, Daniel!

So... What is the truth?

[reece(:]

Cami was a cartoon caricature with parodied Bad Girls Club styled expressions, let's not make out she was the threatening big bad wolf, because if she was BB would have stepped in - like they did with Conor.