[MB.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well I can't argue for other people, but I defended Jeremy in the last CBB when he touched Chloe's robe, and the last time I checked Chloe was a girl, a very ****able one while at it.

...I don't think that's helping much...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MB.

...I don't think that's helping much...

The end part of that paragraph was to lead into my sarcastic part of that post.

[Black Dagger]

Youre embarrassing yourself luv.

[Tom4784]

Mock, stop playing up to this character that you think people like. Nobody is laughing, nobody is entertained.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Mock, stop playing up to this character that you think people like. Nobody is laughing, nobody is entertained.

Okay Dezzy.

If you can't handle different opinions like a grown-up then I'll come back on later as I'm hugary anyway and can't be bothered to keep arguing over a scripted event on a scripted Reality Show.

We're all just falling for what Ch5 wants here by discussing it.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Okay Dezzy.

If you can't handle different opinions like a grown-up then I'll come back on later as I'm hugary anyway and can't be bothered to keep arguing over a scripted event on a scripted Reality Show.

We're all just falling for what Ch5 wants here by discussing it.

It's not a matter of opinion, it was pretty much a sexual assault. If you can't see what's wrong with what Aaron did tonight then every adult in your life has failed you.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's not a matter of opinion, it was pretty much a sexual assault. If you can't see what's wrong with what Aaron did tonight then every adult in your life has failed you.

My opinion is that it wasn't a sexual assault. I am entitled to hold that opinion too.

If it was a sexual assault then the police would be involved. Joel admitted today that he wanted aaron to come back and feels responsible for him leaving.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

My opinion is that it wasn't a sexual assault. I am entitled to hold that opinion too.

If it was a sexual assault then the police would be involved. Joel admitted today that he wanted aaron to come back and feels responsible for him leaving.

And I'm entitled to think that your opinion is rubbish.

Aaron flashed him multiple times, he invaded Joel's personal space, he got into bed with him naked all while Joel was making it abundantly clear that he didn't want any of it. Sounds like a sexual assault to me.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's not a matter of opinion, it was pretty much a sexual assault. If you can't see what's wrong with what Aaron did tonight then every adult in your life has failed you.

That's a really rude nasty thing to say dezzy, I happen to agree that Aaron should still be in there and a warning would suffice. My parents didn't fail me I rationalised the situation.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's a really rude nasty thing to say dezzy, I happen to agree that Aaron should still be in there and a warning would suffice. My parents didn't fail me I rationalised the situation.

And Dezzy wonders why some members hate him.

For a Mod to his too petulant and rude.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's not a matter of opinion, it was pretty much a sexual assault. If you can't see what's wrong with what Aaron did tonight then every adult in your life has failed you.

That's a bit harsh Dezzy

People should be able to express their opinions without someone/a mod basically insinuating they was bought up wrong

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Dollface

That's a bit harsh Dezzy

People should be able to express their opinions without someone/a mod basically insinuating they was bought up wrong

Sometimes an opinion is just wrong though.

If it is your opinion that 2+2=5 or that people don't have the right to pray where they choose or that sexual assault is sometimes okay.. then your "opinion" is just incorrect and in all of these examples an adult should have taught each person right from wrong. Extreme or not, Dezzy had a point.

[Amy Jade]

Wow at the nastiness towards Mock just for not pandering to common opinion.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Wow at the nastiness towards Mock just for not pandering to common opinion.

Isn't that just the Dezzy and Liam way?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Isn't that just the Dezzy and Liam way?

Excuse you, when was I nasty? I said you were wrong, I wasn't nasty in the slightest, I'd prefer it if you didn't say otherwise tyvm.

I have never been remotely nasty to you, not to my knowledge anyway, so to say that it is 'my way' is bang out of order

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Excuse you, when was I nasty? I said you were wrong, I wasn't nasty in the slightest, I'd prefer it if you didn't say otherwise tyvm.

I have never been remotely nasty to you, not to my knowledge anyway, so to say that it is 'my way' is bang out of order

Fair enough, my mistake, I apologize.

I still standby Dezzy though, and anybody that thinks that his views on this are spot on should be infracted as well as Dezzy losing his Mod status.

[Rob!]

Yeah, it's a shame because it was just drunken messing around that went too far, but if a man had done that to a woman, the same would and should have happened. Hopefully it teaches Aaron a valuable lesson about boundaries.
People saying Joel did nothing to discourage it need to remember that he had the rest of the house, including the people he's close to, laughing and encouraging Aaron and sometimes in a situation like that, the easiest thing to do is try and laugh with it.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Yeah, it's a shame because it was just drunken messing around that went too far, but if a man had done that to a woman, the same would and should have happened. Hopefully it teaches Aaron a valuable lesson about boundaries.

Joel isn't a woman. and men and women are different.

People saying Joel did nothing to discourage it need to remember that he had the rest of the house, including the people he's close to, laughing and encouraging Aaron and sometimes in a situation like that, the easiest thing to do is try and laugh with it.

Yes, we understand he was uncomfortable. But it was over with the moment BB intervened and that should have been that apart from maybe a warning.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Joel isn't a woman. and men and women are different.

Considering how much you hate the show I'm frankly amazed you're still here to give such an idiotic opinion. Maybe live feed would have made me see a borderline sexual assault differently. Those editors

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Considering how much you hate the show I'm frankly amazed you're still here to give such an idiotic opinion.

Pointing out that men and women are different is an "idiotic opinion". Okay.

Maybe live feed would have made me see a borderline sexual assault differently. Those editors

A "borderline sexual assault"

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Pointing out that men and women are different is an "idiotic opinion". Okay.




A "borderline sexual assault"

You consider a sexual assault to be what exactly?

[Tom4784]

People wouldn't be so quick to defend Aaron if Joel was a girl. I'm guessing the truth of the matter is that people think that Joel's gay and that somehow makes what Aaron did okay. Joel was nervously laughing because he was wildly uncomfortable, laughter is not consent, especially when Joel made it clear that he wanted Aaron to stop.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

People wouldn't be so quick to defend Aaron if Joel was a girl.

Yes, but Joel isn't a girl, so so what?

I'm guessing the truth of the matter is that people think that Joel's gay and that somehow makes what Aaron did okay.

Has anyone said that?

Joel was nervously laughing because he was wildly uncomfortable, laughter is not consent, especially when Joel made it clear that he wanted Aaron to stop.

There were times when he was genuinely amused. Nobody disagrees that Aaron was going over the top, but to kick him out for it was ridiculous.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

People wouldn't be so quick to defend Aaron if Joel was a girl. I'm guessing the truth of the matter is that people think that Joel's gay and that somehow makes what Aaron did okay. Joel was nervously laughing because he was wildly uncomfortable, laughter is not consent, especially when Joel made it clear that he wanted Aaron to stop.

Joel never made it clear that he wanted him to stop. He laughed along, threw pillows at aaron and chased after aaron pretending to kick him. If I was being "sexually assaulted" then I would be running away from the assailant, not towards him.

The reason aaron carried on was because joel didn't give him any real indication that he was unhappy with it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

People wouldn't be so quick to defend Aaron if Joel was a girl. I'm guessing the truth of the matter is that people think that Joel's gay and that somehow makes what Aaron did okay. Joel was nervously laughing because he was wildly uncomfortable, laughter is not consent, especially when Joel made it clear that he wanted Aaron to stop.

Guess again, you can project any hypothetical scenario you like, I'm reacting to the situation as it is and as I saw it.