[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by stevenmanu

Why on earth would you leave a kid in a hotel room on vlgdf own l jesus

i am going to hazard a guess they did not think that a paedophile murder was in the vicinity


in the same way that families let their children walk to school like Milly Dowler's family did, sadly

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Adam.

But it makes you look more suspicious which will keep you as a suspect right?

no... just to you Adam... in the actual world of law.. that isn't how it works.

Why do you think people need lawyers advising them when questioned by the police... because police can and will cajole people into saying things and twist what is said. They weren't even in their own countries legal system... which is all the more reason to lawyer up.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that is a equation but it was not the only one, it leads into other questions that we are not privvy to



do you seriously think that this was all that they were asked, its ridiculous to try and make a judgement based on newspaper articles?

its stupidity

I think you are the only one who has made a judgement TBH

My theory is that I dont know what happened to Maddy but IMO the Portuguese police get a lot of flack simply cuz they suspected the McCanns straight away but - and I cant really link to articles or give vids to watch but it is an opinion I have formed over the years - I think the Portuguese police police did a much better job that the highly expensive private investigators hired by the McCanns from donations made by the public. The Private firm seemed to be more concerned with PR exercises than finding Maddy. Of course I cant prove any of this but dig a little deeper and you'll see how incompetent they have been.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If my daughter was missing and presumed to be either already dead or at the very least in extreme danger, I literally wouldn't care about anything. At all. Least of all having a legal team, or taking their advice.

My thoughts exactly ,sod the legalities ,just get my daughter found.

[stevenmanu]

I would neve leave my kid on her or his own

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i am going to hazard a guess they did not think that a paedophile murder was in the vicinity


in the same way that families let their children walk to school like Milly Dowler's family did, sadly

No responsible parent lets their 2 and 4 year old walk anywhere on their own, Millie was 13

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by stevenmanu

I would neve leave my kid on her or his own

How many do you have?

[stevenmanu]

I don't have any im just saying if I did

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No responsible parent lets their 2 and 4 year old walk anywhere on their own, Millie was 13

Yes they do

Hence why thousands get abducted every year

Google it

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

She was doing what every person does in that situation, listens to her expert legal team


sorry is this some new concept for people on tibb?



Maybe Girth you can furnish the thread with examples of where joe public ignore their legal team to their great benefit in situations like this?

Also can you link to the interview with the police and the interview with kate where she explains her actions

Oi, you asked for input into this thread, don't get all supercilious when people comment... Nobody's on trial here :/

[Beso]

Threads going knowhere and its probably been discussed time and time again. People wont chanhe their minds on this one until the truth comes out.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes they do

Hence why thousands get abducted every year

Google it

The key word there was "responsible", LT. No responsible parent let's their 4 year old and toddlers walk to school on their own. And no responsible parent leaves children that age alone in a house / apartment / hotel room alone and goes off for dinner. In fact, I was reading an article just today about a couple being g arrested for going out and leaving their kids alone at home - the eldest of whom was 8.

Its reckless and irresponsible behaviour at best and in my opinion should be considered criminally negligent. They should have been arrested for their actions no matter what actually happened to the girl. There needs to be a very clear message that this is NOT OK.

Anyone who furthers the idea that the McCann's did nothing wrong by leaving those kids is simply telling other parents that it's acceptable parenting.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The key word there was "responsible", LT. No responsible parent let's their 4 year old and toddlers walk to school on their own. And no responsible parent leaves children that age alone in a house / apartment / hotel room alone and goes off for dinner. In fact, I was reading an article just today about a couple being g arrested for going out and leaving their kids alone at home - the eldest of whom was 8.

Its reckless and irresponsible behaviour at best and in my opinion should be considered criminally negligent. They should have been arrested for their actions no matter what actually happened to the girl. There needs to be a very clear message that this is NOT OK.

Anyone who furthers the idea that the McCann's did nothing wrong by leaving those kids is simply telling other parents that it's acceptable parenting.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If my daughter was missing and presumed to be either already dead or at the very least in extreme danger, I literally wouldn't care about anything. At all. Least of all having a legal team, or taking their advice.

You would probably still care about your other children. An innocent person ignoring legal advise knowing that it would likely lead to them being prosecuted and losing their children makes no sense whatsoever. Are people forgetting they still had other kids to look after? Of course legal advice would be sought.

And I think some people seem to be under the misconception that these questions would somehow result in Madeline being found, and by not answering them, they were hindering the search. But this isn't true, the questions were designed to incriminate the McCanns. Answering them would only have led to the discovery of Madeline's whereabouts, had the McCanns been guilty. So under the presumption that they were innocent, and knowing that they had two other children, their actions in this scenario makes perfect sense.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by stevenmanu

I would neve leave my kid on her or his own

Exactly.
Also in this case Kids left on their own not just one, one was even younger than Maddie.
Just to go and socialise.
It stinks rotten.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Exactly.
Also in this case Kids left on their own not just one, one was even younger than Maddie.
Just to go and socialise.
It stinks rotten.

Makes you wonder why someone would take the older child and climb out a window with them risking them waking up, when taking the younger one would probably be less risky, and easier.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The key word there was "responsible", LT. No responsible parent let's their 4 year old and toddlers walk to school on their own. And no responsible parent leaves children that age alone in a house / apartment / hotel room alone and goes off for dinner. In fact, I was reading an article just today about a couple being g arrested for going out and leaving their kids alone at home - the eldest of whom was 8.

Its reckless and irresponsible behaviour at best and in my opinion should be considered criminally negligent. They should have been arrested for their actions no matter what actually happened to the girl. There needs to be a very clear message that this is NOT OK.

Anyone who furthers the idea that the McCann's did nothing wrong by leaving those kids is simply telling other parents that it's acceptable parenting.

Great post TS, I agree!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Exactly.
Also in this case Kids left on their own not just one, one was even younger than Maddie.
Just to go and socialise.
It stinks rotten.

2 there were 2 others in the room, 3 under 5s... Seems crackers doesn't it?
To sit swilling wine down the road! I'm a parent and an ex *ahem* problem drinker, and I wouldn't have dreamed of doing that :/

[Moosething]

I actually agree with this article by Katie Hopkins
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...me-let-go.html

[Denver]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Makes you wonder why someone would take the older child and climb out a window with them risking them waking up, when taking the younger one would probably be less risky, and easier.

This is another suspicious thing why kidnapp 1 child and not all of them? Why not take the younger kids who won't remember much

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Adam.

This is another suspicious thing why kidnapp 1 child and not all of them? Why not take the younger kids who won't remember much

A pedophile Adam... it's vile but true unfortunately ... someone who would use a girl and get rid... who wasn't looking to raise one necessarily

[Mokka]

I guess I will throw my two cents in...

I think the parents were negligent to leave their children unattended... and it is something I never have, nor would I ever do. That being said, the price they paid was way steeper than any jail or prison sentence. Yes I feel sympathy for them... and heart wrenched for the daughter and what her life became in that moment... but I would need way more then the speculations that have happened to assume that the parents purposely set out to put their children in danger... or worse, plotted or planned their daughters disappearance/death.

And... If I were them I would continue to reach out to the press or authorities or who ever would listen to try to find out where Maddie is or what happened to her. The non-closure must be the worst... and I don't think it makes them attention seeking media *****s for doing it... at all.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Mokka

I guess I will throw my two cents in...

I think the parents were negligent to leave their children unattended... and it is something I never have, nor would I ever do. That being said, the price they paid was way steeper than any jail or prison sentence. Yes I feel sympathy for them... and heart wrenched for the daughter and what her life became in that moment... but I would need way more then the speculations that have happened to assume that the parents purposely set out to put their children in danger... or worse, plotted or planned their daughters disappearance/death.

And... If I were them I would continue to reach out to the press or authorities or who ever would listen to try to find out where Maddie is or what happened to her. The non-closure must be the worst... and I don't think it makes them attention seeking media *****s for doing it... at all.

I agree with all of this.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mokka

but I would need way more then the speculations that have happened to assume that the parents purposely set out to put their children in danger... or worse, plotted or planned their daughters disappearance/death.

I don't think it's very likely that they wanted to or plotted to harm her. However, I also don't think it's very likely that a ninja-paedophile, or perhaps some sort of special forces trained Gypsy, was creeping around silently abducting children from their beds and leaving behind zero physical evidence. It IS pure speculation but the simplest, and in my opinion most likely, explanation for the entire thing is that she had a fatal accident while they were out and they panicked and covered it up. Because... err... even THEY probably realised that leaving a 4 year old and two younger kids unattended in a strange room at night was absolute ****ing madness.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't think it's very likely that they wanted to or plotted to harm her. However, I also don't think it's very likely that a ninja-paedophile, or perhaps some sort of special forces trained Gypsy, was creeping around silently abducting children from their beds and leaving behind zero physical evidence. It IS pure speculation but the simplest, and in my opinion most likely, explanation for the entire thing is that she had a fatal accident while they were out and they panicked and covered it up. Because... err... even THEY probably realised that leaving a 4 year old and two younger kids unattended in a strange room at night was absolute ****ing madness.

And yet... you are speculating as much as all the rest is speculation. It's all speculation... I just believe in innocence until proven guilty... and there is no proof of guilt in any of these scenarios.