[Rob!]

+1 apparently took it up to 1.6m. It looks better but it's still dire. God knows where it's going to go from here.

[*mazedsalv**]

According to Broadcast:

BB launched with 1.6m (8.4%) including +1, down on last year's 1.8m (10%), but was up on the channel's 980k (5.5%) slot average.

It's poor but not as bad now the +1 is in there.

[Rob!]

Where did it come in relation to the other channels?

[*mazedsalv**]

Well, the EU debate was the first time ITV on a Tuesday (bar BGT semis) got over 4m in ages! ITV Tues are usually flops and never goes over 2.5m.

So, that would have damaged it, as would Love Island.

[Headie]

Damn, this really is gonna be the last civlian series ain't it

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Damn, this really is gonna be the last civlian series ain't it

Probably.

But CBB is more popular, so if it's down, it's down, and nothing will help it.

[*mazedsalv**]

So, predictions for the next few days...

Tonight- 1.18m
Thursday- 1.15m
Friday- 0.95m (against opening ceremony)
Saturday- 0.59m (10pm after England Euro match)
Sunday- 1.14m

In comparison, BB16....

Launch- 1.8m
Wednesday- 1.19m
Thursday- 1.20m
Friday- 1.35m
Saturday- 0.75m
Sunday- 1.12m

[Ross.]

Chill and just enjoy the show people

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I think BB just has a core audience now of around 1.2 who will allways watch live and it still has its say 300k who catch up and I cant see it dropping off much like it used to. Yes we used to get big numbers for launch but the drop off was huge now more people stick with it.

[zakman440]

That rating is awful tbh, but it was to be expected with the lack of promotion in comparison to Love Island (and Rylan backing out of Radio 1).

The problem is, if the next few weeks continue to be so low then that's when the producers start going in to panic mode. If they attempt to reset the series again in a few weeks time, they run the risk of losing the audience that's still there.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Like....that's the launch.

Daniel and Jack are going to have strokes when they see this

Nah, this is precisely what I expected. In fact I thought it would be lower

The promotion ****ing sucked, people kept trying to defend it but it sucked. And they've rightfully paid the price. Unfortunately for us fans this is going to be the last civilian series so let's enjoy it before C5 ram the proverbial dick of CBB down our throats forever more, which I won't be staying for

[Rob!]

I think the best we can hope for at this stage is that the officials beef it up. Last night at the very least should hit 1.9/2m in the officials.

[nonstop]

Christ, those are poor ratings for a Launch. Channel 5 should just end the civilian series.

[Jason.]

That is an awful rating but it was to be expected. Not only because the promo wasn't as good but the show is never going to rate as well after BB15/16. Not to mention they've lost quite a percentage of the loyal 1.6m viewers they had 3/4 years back.

And the promo was awful - my sister only found out it was launching half an hour before the launch even started.

[*mazedsalv**]

Big Brother (10pm): 1.36m (9.1%)

That's the smallest launch to first night drop ever on BB.

That's quite impressive considering BB launch got 1.39m excl +1. And to be at 10pm, the share was much higher than launch. However, not much will be added on +1 because that would have been broadcasted at 11pm.

To compare, Big Brother 2015 first HL show got 1.19m incl +1, and this is set to be ~1.5m with +1.

Love Island went on to post a phenomenal figure of 0.92m excl +1

[MB.]

Okay that's slightly less disconcerting and would suggest some sort of stable audience at least

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by MB.

Okay that's slightly less disconcerting and would suggest some sort of stable audience at least

For sure.

Last year:
Launch- 1.83m
1st HL show- 1.19m

This year:
Launch- 1.6m
1st HL show- ~1.5m

The norm is a drop of 20-25%, last nights drop (excl +1 anyway), barely even registers a 5% drop.

So, does this mean, a 10pm slot will help BB this year? Tonight and tomorrow it's back at 9pm. Both facing Love Island and then Euro's on Friday, so that will be tricky.

But it's very positive news for last night though.

[RichardG]

omg I was kinda nervous clicking on this thread that's good, I can only hope it improves because if last night was anything to go by then I think this is gonna be a very good season^.^

i'm kinda shocked tho, it got quite a lot of negativity regarding the housemate selection online so for basically all of those to still tune in anyway is surprising

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by RichardG

omg I was kinda nervous clicking on this thread that's good, I can only hope it improves because if last night was anything to go by then I think this is gonna be a very good season^.^

i'm kinda shocked tho, it got quite a lot of negativity regarding the housemate selection online so for basically all of those to still tune in anyway is surprising

I honestly think the EU debate took viewers away, as did Love Island.

Watch BB fall tonight facing Love island.

It seems after last night that LI at 9pm and BB on at 10pm every day (bar evictions of course) should be what they must do because BB had the smallest drop ever and LI got the highest ever rating since launching on ITV2 over a year ago.

Tonight will be down to around ~1.2-1.3m IMO. Perhaps 1.12m excl and then 180k on +1.

Tomorrow doesn't bear thinking about.

[Jake.]

Wow! I'm really impressed that it only dropped slightly from the launch... I was honestly expecting 900k or something, so fair play.

[TomC]

That's pretty good, I thought it would be a big drop considering how negative comments on FB were about the launch. Last night was a good enough show to keep people hooked as well.

[Will.]

That's really impressive.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I honestly think the EU debate took viewers away, as did Love Island.

Watch BB fall tonight facing Love island.

It seems after last night that LI at 9pm and BB on at 10pm every day (bar evictions of course) should be what they must do because BB had the smallest drop ever and LI got the highest ever rating since launching on ITV2 over a year ago.

Tonight will be down to around ~1.2-1.3m IMO. Perhaps 1.12m excl and then 180k on +1.

Tomorrow doesn't bear thinking about.

When does LI finish? I think there are only 2 episodes at 10pm next week, and tbh I hate stayin up till 10pm in week nights to watch it.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by TomC

When does LI finish? I think there are only 2 episodes at 10pm next week, and tbh I hate stayin up till 10pm in week nights to watch it.

Quite a lot i think. Tonight is 11/31. So they are only a third into the run it seems.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Quite a lot i think. Tonight is 11/31. So they are only a third into the run it seems.

Omg