[sarahtheangel]

sorry but no one is thinking of the babys choice in britian upto 24 weeks you can have an abortion, babys can survive at that gestation and many abortions are born alive then they leave the baby to die thats not right have any of you looked at images of abortions it so usetting

[Ella]

I agree Sarah. Its shocking to think some women kill their child at 24 weeks. People can give birth to perfectly healthy babies at that age. Women that do have abortions this late on are selfish and IMO should feel ashamed of themselves.

[Stu]

In that case an argument can be made that obviously abortions should nto be made that late into the pregnancy.

[Ella]

Originally posted by Stu
In that case an argument can be made that obviously abortions should nto be made that late into the pregnancy.

Yeah I totally agree with that. I think it should be reduced to 8 weeks. A women knows when shes had unprotected sex and should know what she wants to do as soon as she finds out.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Ella

Yeah I totally agree with that. I think it should be reduced to 8 weeks. A women knows when shes had unprotected sex and should know what she wants to do as soon as she finds out.

Exactly. Fail safe plans should come into immediate effect when its somebodys potential life your discussing. Anything else and the girls just silly.

[Ella]

Its quite shocking to hear that some girls think that abortion is a quick solution to a one night stand, I heard this one girl say that her and her boyfriend didnt have any condoms..so they had unprotected sex. She then said 'It doesn't matter though, There's always abortion'. So she knew exactly what she was doing. The silly silly girl.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Ella
Its quite shocking to hear that some girls think that abortion is a quick solution to a one night stand, I heard this one girl say that her and her boyfriend didnt have any condoms..so they had unprotected sex. She then said 'It doesn't matter though, There's always abortion'. So she knew exactly what she was doing. The silly silly girl.

She should be made watch paint dry or watch an episode of Big Brother Big Mouth or something.

[rex3]

well just have protected sex than

[sarahtheangel]

thanks ella with agreeing with my points , i think it should be down to the morning after pill , even at 8 weeks a fetus is fully formed

[LovelyL]

Its completely up to the girl and unless you are her and know her circumstances NOBODY can judge.

[nodisharmony]

I think that more people should use condoms and nevermind the Pill, I know that Condoms can split, but there is the morning after pill, just in case?

But, if an Abortion is really something that the future mother wants, then that should be the right and just thing to do.

I am a Protestant, so that makes sense..

Catholics have a rule to follow, so they say???????







nodisharmony

[spacebandit]

Womans Body
Womans Choice
Womans Decision

[Billy]

At the end of the day, there are different circumstances not everything is black and white

[Sunny_01]

I am very much pro-choice.

I accept that everyone has strong feelings about this issue and especially those with young children. I have 2 children and 1 grandchild yet would still support a family member or friend should they choose to terminate a pregnancy. Sometimes people dont even realise they are pregnant until they are in exccess of 8 weeks, does that mean they should have to have a baby that they have no desire to have. Is it fair to bring more unwanted children into the world?

I know all the arguments that people want to adopt, but some people can not stand the thought of being pregnant, and at the end of the day it is their body, no-one has the right to tell them what to do with it.

Does anyone want to see us go back to back street abortions which often left young women dead or maimed? I dont and if the laws changed thats what we would see more and more of. Young women to scared to talk to anyone they know and sneaking off to god knows where.

I just want some middle ground, I agree 24 weeks seems very late, considering a fetus is viable at that stage, it can and often will survive, my friends son was born at that stage and is now 19! However there have to be some exceptions, some tests you can not have until you are nearly 20 weeks which would highlight disabilities in a child, should they then be forced to continue with a pregnancy that they want to end. A 24 week termination is a lot rarer than people think in this country, most are done before 12 weeks, 24 weeks is only for extreme circumstances.

[Ruth]

I agree 100% with Sunny, and am very much pro-choice. It's easy for people to stand in judgement and say abortion is wrong. I do agree that the legal limit of 24 weeks is too long, and it should perhaps be reduced to about 12 weeks (I wouldn't say 8 - only because my friend was not able to get in to have an abortion before she was 8 weeks pregnant; that was a while ago and I don't know if things have changed. Plus, if a girl's periods are irregular, she may not realise that she is pregnant until later on). And as Sunny said, there are certain tests which cannot be taken before a certain amount of time.

Adoption is an easy, but not a viable argument. There are far too many children hoping to be adopted, and who never will be, already.

Further, if abortion was made illegal (and don't hold your breath folks, because it's never going to happen), it wouldn't stop. You would get young women dying or becoming seriously ill, because they would seek illegal, backstreet abortions, which aren't safe to the mother or the baby.

[Dr43%er]

Plus, if a girl's periods are irregular, she may not realise that she is pregnant until later on

Had a mate that was 6 and a half months gone before she found out. How the **** that happens I don't know, but it does.

[secrets]

whichever way you look at it,its killing a life.
its time couples were more responsable and not be rushing into having sex without precautions.

some treat it all as a game and abortion is a quick fix.
if sex is all you want out of life ,guys get the snip,girls get sterilised. you dont ever deserve to be parents.

[natjake2504]

i never beleived in them at first - but at the same time was not against people who had them.

Now i am a mum its hard to even think of abortions but a few months ago my 16 yr old cousin who i am really close to got raped and became pregnant from. After much thought and crying together she decied to have one - she just knew that she could not cope and feared that she would hate her unborn child.

Anyway - i just think that there are alot of girls out there that really do struggly with this and they dont always take the option lightly

[Ruth]

You know, it's a bit unfair for people to keep insinuating that if someone gets pregnant by accident, then they have been irresponsible or stupid. Sometimes you can do everything right and take all necessary precautions and STILL get pregnant.

I think it's unreasonable to expect people to have vasectomys or sterilisations when they might be at an age when they don't even know if they want children or not.

We all know that there are some people who use abortion as an alternative to contraception, and that IS irresponsible, particularly as you can get free condoms from a family planning clinic. But these people need to be educated about how to protect themselves. Expecting them to have an operation that will mean they can never have children is not fair.

[LovelyL]

Originally posted by secrets
whichever way you look at it,its killing a life.
its time couples were more responsable and not be rushing into having sex without precautions.

some treat it all as a game and abortion is a quick fix.
if sex is all you want out of life ,guys get the snip,girls get sterilised. you dont ever deserve to be parents.

Like who are you to say that?

[spacebandit]

To all those who would deny women the right to choose what THEY do with THEIR OWN bodies, and say the child must be born - to explain what to do with the child some suggest adoption..

Are you willing to put your money were your mouths are ?, raise an unwanted child for 18+ years - feed it, clothe it, bring it up as a responsible adult - put your life out for the sake of the unborn child.

If so - how many have you adopted ?
or
How many do you plan to adopt ?

if not... why not ?

[Sunny_01]

Like Ruth I can not believe that people are saying those that get pregnant are bein irresponsible. Many young women end up pregnant even after using contraception. No contraception is 100% effective so accidents do happen.

It's very cruel to suggest that just because someone is not ready straight away to become a parent that they be denied the right to go on to have happy, healthy children in the future..

There are so many babies and children in the care system in this country, do you not see the adverts for foster parents in the papers all the time! many of these are for children who simply cant be adopted for whatever reason. Do you think its fair to bring a child into the world that you do not want and subject it to a life of constant change and moving home and not knowing where you will be next? I dont, the system in this country is already at breaking point, why should we fail yet more children.

People talk about the rights of the unborn fetus, yet are happy to forget about the basic human rights of the mother to choose whether she wishes to continue with a pregnancy.

I personally would terminate a pregnancy were I to become pregnant at this stage in my life, I wouldnt do it happily but I would certainly not want anyone passing a judgement about what I can and can not do with MY body. CHOICE is the key here, we live in a country where we are given a CHOICE, who are any of us to deny anyone the right to choose what is best for them.

[LovelyL]

Originally posted by Sunny_01

If the abortion is being carried out after eight weeks then it will be under a general anaesthetic in which case permission may be required from your parents if you are under 16.

If you are under 16 weeks it wont be done under general anaesthetic, you will be induced and have to deliver it like a normal birth

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by LovelyL

If you are under 16 weeks it wont be done under general anaesthetic, you will be induced and have to deliver it like a normal birth

This is not the case at all. There are different options depending on the stage of pregnancy and what is available in your area

Under 9 weeks women are now offered a medical abortion which is done via tablets that they take then a vaginal pessary the next day

Under 14 weeks is generally done under general anisthetic using the vacum method. Any later than this can mean a woman is induced and expected to deliver normally but this depends on circumstances etc...

When I said 16 I was on about aged 16.

If anyone wants to look at more info they can go to

http://www.brook.org.uk/content/M2_5_abortion.asp

[LovelyL]

It is the case if you are like 15 weeks or 14 weeks you have to deliver it