[Raph]

And people forget that a large proportion of immigrants played a big role in actually improving Britains economy over the year!

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Dollface

This is how I see it... The country was almost at rock bottom (i've just been refused surgery on the NHS, surgery that I need, despite my family paying outrageous tax for years and years and years, it's not right that the NHS funding is so piss poor!) being in the EU was not working, so maybe, it was time to try something different. If it doesn't work and this all goes tits up, at least we tried, and i'm proud that the majority of the country voted to try, despite it being such a risk.

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[Rob!]

It's a massive irreversible mistake.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No but I am sure you can find it if you disbelieve me,on whatever news channel it was on, it was when Farage said that he thought the remain side had just edged it, then it was said that possibly the extension period for voting registration could have helped with that.

I watched news on Sky,BBC and ITV it was on one of them, find it if you will but anyway I do not tell lies to make a point.

The tune changed dramatically when it was then predicted later that 'leave' was likely to end up ahead.

it was shown on the BBC last night. He changed his position at least 3 times that I am aware of, maybe more

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I doubt it will stop immigration anyway, so if people are expecting to magically stop immigrants from coming over here, I think they'll be disappointed.

I explained on the other EU referedum thread why I support leaving the EU.

Good. For me, and many people I know it was nothing to do with stopping immigration.

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

This isn't a vote for the X Factor winner.

First the tesco one and now this, you're killing me today TS

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Good. For me, and many people I know it was nothing to do with stopping immigration.

So why did you vote leave? I'm genuinely interested.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Good. For me, and many people I know it was nothing to do with stopping immigration.

Exactly, I was just explaining that on the other thread ( i'm literally saying the same things back and forth on two different threads)

[joeysteele]

I have only one thing to say as to those of over 65 who it appears have voted more to 'leave' than 'remain', not all of them thankfully.

When 41 years ago, they were voting for their futures, they voted yes to getting closer to Europe in the EEC, with the knowledge, that was said at the time of going in then, this was just the start of the UKs journey in Europe.

Now it is not their futures they were particularly voting on, sadly more of them than not, it appears now voted to 'leave',so to blazes with everyone else.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Good. For me, and many people I know it was nothing to do with stopping immigration.

I can absolutely guarantee that it was ALL about stopping immigration for significantly more than the 4% swing vote... So, the fact that it wasn't about that for every leave voter is largely irrelevant. Fear of brown faces swung the leave victory, for 100% certain, as those campaigning for it knew it would (hence hamming up the stats for months).

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Not to mention the fact that MOST people are going to be butt****ed by this, whether they realise it yet or not. Those who do realise it are perfectly justified in feeling angry or despairing over it. The "sour grapes", "sore losers" rhetoric is so badly misplaced that it's not even funny. This isn't a vote for the X Factor winner. This is something that will personally impact on every single person's life in a very real way.

"Sour grapes lol lol we won we won" type statements just make me even more horrified at the state of democracy. What a joke.

I like you.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Good. For me, and many people I know it was nothing to do with stopping immigration.

I'm not leaving anyway

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Woman from Sunderland smugly declares she voted leave. But why ''to get out country back''

Sunderland is 95% white

[Dollface]

Oh look, Tibb's resident whites-hater, right on time.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Dollface

Oh look, Tibb's resident whites-hater, right on time.

No you're late. Been here all night.

Is that my name? I love white people

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

So why did you vote leave? I'm genuinely interested.

The EU is doing sweet FA for this country. It's time we took a risk and a chance on our own. It very well could go very wrong (IMO both decisions had major consequences) but it's the lesser of two evils IMO. Better than rolling over and agreeing to the terms of a bunch of nameless twats from Brussels.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I can absolutely guarantee that it was ALL about stopping immigration for significantly more than the 4% swing vote... So, the fact that it wasn't about that for every leave voter is largely irrelevant. Fear of brown faces swung the leave victory, for 100% certain, as those campaigning for it knew it would (hence hamming up the stats for months).

Well, I'm not pretending to know a large majority of people. I was being told why I voted and simply refuted it.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The EU is doing sweet FA for this country. It's time we took a risk and a chance on our own. It very well could go very wrong (IMO both decisions had major consequences) but it's the lesser of two evils IMO. Better than rolling over and agreeing to the terms of a bunch of nameless twats from Brussels.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I can absolutely guarantee that it was ALL about stopping immigration for significantly more than the 4% swing vote... So, the fact that it wasn't about that for every leave voter is largely irrelevant. Fear of brown faces swung the leave victory, for 100% certain, as those campaigning for it knew it would (hence hamming up the stats for months).

Well, I'm not pretending to know a large majority of people. I was being told why I voted and simply refuted it.

[Cal.]

At the end of the day girls no one's gonna die

The world will still turn and the birds will still sing in the morning X

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

At the end of the day girls no one's gonna die

The world will still turn and the birds will still sing in the morning X

THIS is why cal is amazing

(also i 100% agree with you that the green party should lead)

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have only one thing to say as to those of over 65 who it appears have voted more to 'leave' than 'remain', not all of them thankfully.

When 43 years ago, they were voting for their futures, they voted yes to getting closer to Europe in the EEC, with the knowledge, that was said at the time of going in then, this was just the start of the UKs journey in Europe.

Now it is not their futures they were particularly voting on, sadly more of them than not, it appears now voted to 'leave',so to blazes with everyone else.

So, the over 65s who voted to leave were doing so out of spite for the younger generations and not because they genuinely believe it to be the right decision?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

At the end of the day girls no one's gonna die

The world will still turn and the birds will still sing in the morning X

Birds from abroad? I will shoot them.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The EU is doing sweet FA for this country. It's time we took a risk and a chance on our own. It very well could go very wrong (IMO both decisions had major consequences) but it's the lesser of two evils IMO. Better than rolling over and agreeing to the terms of a bunch of nameless twats from Brussels.

The things that had been promised as positives in this scenario have, since the results came through, all been withdrawn as facts. Immigration isn't going to be affected and the NHS is going to see none of this apparent extra money we'll be getting. The parties involved and the media have used the public's fears to get the, apparently unlikely ,result they wanted
Sorry but in no universe was this the lesser of two evils - if Remain had won, we would have had the option to vote again if it all went to **** after staying. This way, we're not getting that chance again. That's it. We're out. There's no going back from this. If it all goes to **** from here....tough. We now are at a risk of losing Scotland and probably Northern Ireland so we'll be even smaller as an independent country. The chances of people of our generation owning our own houses is now through the floor because the value of the pound has taken a bigger nose dive than any currency in history. I don't see how this can possibly be a good thing? The fact that there is a genuine confusion about all these facts and figures that have come through is proof that a vast majority of the leavers had absolutely no clue what they were voting for.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Dollface

THIS is why cal is amazing

(also i 100% agree with you that the green party should lead)

Yaaas