[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
Well you asked for posts to be kept short and to the point.

Edited I actually said:

Can I ask a small favour of everyone here please. I know that sometimes it is important to quote peoples posts BUT some of these quotes are getting really long and taking a huge time to both trawl through and read but also to Moderate as appropraite.

So the favour is could people please not quote, requote and quote again making posts HUGE!!!

I am not saying dont quote just try to make them smaller and relevent

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
we were takling about Jo going to blow the lid on Jade in the CBB race row lol. However we were informed by the member who knows all that this is not going to happen! so when it does it will be such a shock

Is that what we were on about? Good job Sunny.

I think it will happen and Jade will be in even more trouble when it does.

[nodisharmony]

Loads of questions to answer, but I have a few other things to do today, so I shall save you from almost going insane

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But, let's get on about the topic in question? Just to save this topic from getting locked.

I said that this "Jo blows lid on Jade stuff" is NOT going to happen, simply because, when Jo O'Meara appeared on GMTV the other day and Fiona Phillips asked Jo about this, Jo replied that it was the first that she had heard of this? and it was untrue.

Now! Let's just say that Jo O'Meara was lying?

What would happen then?

Well, an educated guess would say to me, that, as Jo said to Fiona that it wasn't going to happen, then, if she went back on that and did make this book, then it would place Jo O'Meara in a difficult position.

Many would say:-

"Hang on a minute?? didn't Jo say to Fiona that she didn't know anything about this?? That it wasn't going to happen."

Do you really expect Jo O'Meara to be that stupid?

Do you really expect Jo O'Meara to place herself in that position. Showing us all and Fiona Phillips that she is just a liar?

Fiona Phillips & GMTV & their many, many viewers would never trust Jo ever again.

It would be in the Newspapers & the TV.

This is so obvious, it is untrue!!!

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The lesson's to be learnt here are very obvious:-

Firstly, watch Jo O'Meara on GMTV when it is advertised that she will be on that show on that day.

Secondly, Never rely on Youtube.com to save the day for you. Sometimes clips from shows don't end up on there.

Lastly, I state evidence and educated opinions and if you can disprove it in the form of a debate, then that is always welcome.

But, if you have the words "racist" & "bully" & even "intense dislike or even hatred" of all three of these girls. Then, I can't see you ever understanding any of this.

nodisharmony

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[GiRTh]

Brief!!!! The last paragraph has only one line that's relevant.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Brief!!!! The last paragraph has only one line that's relevant.

In your opinion!

I would say it is very explanatory and very clear indeed!

Pick holes in it, if you want?

If you want to imply that Jo O'Meara would be that stupid?

I say it won't happen, end of!!!!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

In your opinion!

I would say it is very explanatory and very clear indeed!

Pick holes in it, if you want?

If you want to imply that Jo O'Meara would be that stupid?

I say it won't happen, end of!!!!

Let's go through it line by line to pick out the points you're making.

The lesson's to be learnt here are very obvious:-

Firstly, watch Jo O'Meara on GMTV when it is advertised that she will be on that show on that day.

You're telling me to watch the show on the day Jo is on. There would'nt be much point in me watching the day after would there?

Secondly, Never rely on Youtube.com to save the day for you. Sometimes clips from shows don't end up on there.

Are you saying that youtube does not have every event that ever happens. How did you know that? I thought it did.

Lastly, I state evidence and educated opinions and if you can disprove it in the form of a debate, then that is always welcome.

This is the only RELEVANT point. Personally I disagree with it but it is relevant.

But, if you have the words "racist" & "bully" & even "intense dislike or even hatred" of all three of these girls. Then, I can't see you ever understanding any of this.

This isn't even English.

In MY opinion you waffle. I've just proved it.

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

I said that this "Jo blows lid on Jade stuff" is NOT going to happen, simply because, when Jo O'Meara appeared on GMTV the other day and Fiona Phillips asked Jo about this, Jo replied that it was the first that she had heard of this? and it was untrue.

Now! Let's just say that Jo O'Meara was lying?

What would happen then?

Well, an educated guess would say to me, that, as Jo said to Fiona that it wasn't going to happen, then, if she went back on that and did make this book, then it would place Jo O'Meara in a difficult position.

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You say that it must be true because she told Fiona Phillips this! How many celebrities do you know have denied things publically when interviewed but then the next thing you know they are doing it anyway. Lets use Brad Pitt as an example here, him and Angelina were defo not getting it on - now they are all loved up baby in tow! I feel that kind of cancels out your argument that it cant be true!

Also I doubt Jo would care to much what people thought of her following an interview on GMTV! she will still go out there and do what she has to too make money!

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Sunny_01

You say that it must be true because she told Fiona Phillips this! How many celebrities do you know have denied things publically when interviewed but then the next thing you know they are doing it anyway. Lets use Brad Pitt as an example here, him and Angelina were defo not getting it on - now they are all loved up baby in tow! I feel that kind of cancels out your argument that it cant be true!

Also I doubt Jo would care to much what people thought of her following an interview on GMTV! she will still go out there and do what she has to too make money!

We can always use examples of past celebrities.

I agree there!

Brad Pitt & Angelina Jolie are worth many Millions of dollars. Also, they are going places and both have a thriving career.

Jo O'Meara is a celebrity, Ex-S Club 7 member who is in a state, due to bad editing on a reality show, that should have recognized offensive material when it was staring them in the face, since many thousand obviously did.

She is going to lose her house and has no real money.

A book about Jade Goody, saying nasty things about her, would only start a civil war between the two of them.

Jade Goody is 8 million quid more powerful than the poor Jo O'Meara. A case not-worth-starting! Jade would be ready to sue, believe-you-me.

Easy to work out...

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Of course, an out-of-court settlement from Endemol may have crossed her mind, while Jo & Danielle started talking.

But that is very stupid to assume!

Endemol's solicitors could tread on all three girls and it would be like crushing three "wood-lice."

Money, what else...
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I would prefer, no book, no investigation and no trouble.

Total nodisharmony instead!!


nodisharmony

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
We can always use examples of past celebrities.

I agree there!

Brad Pitt & Angelina Jolie are worth many Millions of dollars. Also, they are going places and both have a thriving career.

Jo O'Meara is a celebrity, Ex-S Club 7 member who is in a state, due to bad editing on a reality show, that should have recognized offensive material when it was staring them in the face, since many thousand obviously did.

She is going to lose her house and has no real money.

A book about Jade Goody, saying nasty things about her, would only start a civil war between the two of them.

Jade Goody is 8 million quid more powerful than the poor Jo O'Meara. A case not-worth-starting! Jade would be ready to sue, believe-you-me.

Easy to work out...

I would prefer, no book, no investigation and no trouble.

I still feel that you are blindly thinking that Jo will sit back and say nothing because of the power of Jade and her millions! Jo could see this as an opportunity to make herself some big bucks!

I doubt anyone really cares what you would prefer to be honest and I am sure that they will all go on and do as they merry well please anyway

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Let's go through it line by line to pick out the points you're making.

You're telling me to watch the show on the day Jo is on. There would'nt be much point in me watching the day after would there?

Are you saying that youtube does not have every event that ever happens. How did you know that? I thought it did.

This is the only RELEVANT point. Personally I disagree with it but it is relevant.

This isn't even English.

In MY opinion you waffle. I've just proved it.

GiRTh, If you missed the GMTV programme on that day, don't worry! I'll fill you in.
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Youtube only covers programme clips, etc.. if people place them on there.

Nobody has placed the second GMTV interview on there yet.
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All words are in English, I can't write in any other language.

But I can always use a translater and post it in Italian? But I read the forum rules and I see it is not prefered.

I'm glad about that!!

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Sunny_01

I still feel that you are blindly thinking that Jo will sit back and say nothing because of the power of Jade and her millions! Jo could see this as an opportunity to make herself some big bucks!

I doubt anyone really cares what you would prefer to be honest and I am sure that they will all go on and do as they merry well please anyway

Some have to agree to disagree.

The majority think the worse of Jade, Jo & Danielle.

[Sunny_01]

You see I dont actually think the worst of them I just dont like it when others opinions are disregarded as being worthless.

I have no personal feelings about any of the girls as I personally dont know them! I do have feelings about their behaviour which is a little different

[Red Moon]

The only feeling I have is that the Jade is being over talked about. In fact I feel worse now about her than I did when she was in the house.

Bringing up the same stuff again and again doesn't do any of them any good. Be it Jo or a member on the site in my eyes.

I’m just over Jaded.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Red Moon

I’m just over Jaded.

Bravo!!!!! Really really Bravo!!! I take my hat of to you.... and anything else you'd like

Back on topic, I have no desire to see or hear about the three little witches anymore!

[Sunny_01]

We are not the only ones who think Jade's behaviour was terrible:

UK Chancellor Gordon Brown: "I understand that in the UK there have already been 10,000 complaints from viewers about these remarks, which people see, rightly, as offensive. he said this at the time of the show! I think that the key there is "rightly as offensive"

UK Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell: "I think this is racism being presented as entertainment, and I think it is disgusting.

"My personal view is that this has caused enormous offence not only abroad but to the Indian community here."

Is she wrong as well??

And lastly the woman herself:

Goody after being evicted said:

"I'm disgusted in myself for saying what I have just seen myself saying. I do not approve of any of my actions and I do not approve of the words that came out of my mouth."

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

GiRTh, If you missed the GMTV programme on that day, don't worry! I'll fill you in.
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Youtube only covers programme clips, etc.. if people place them on there.

Nobody has placed the second GMTV interview on there yet.
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All words are in English, I can't write in any other language.

But I can always use a translater and post it in Italian? But I read the forum rules and I see it is not prefered.

I'm glad about that!!

Brilliant. Do you remember the original topic? Let me remind you. You made, yet, another post full of waffle, I commented (correctly) that it was all waffle, you countered with the some what over used 'that's your opinion' I then proceeded to (successfully) deconstruct the paragraph, sentence by sentence.

Why have you bothered replying. This proves that you have no idea what original point you're trying to make. You just answer every thing with whatever waffle you happen to think up at the time.

Please waffle another reply. I'm looking forward to it.

[Kyoushu]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Brief!!!! The last paragraph has only one line that's relevant.

I thought alot of it was relevant. I think you have been unfair to nodisharmony to say this grith.

[Mrluvaluva]

nodis is now offline

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Kyoushu

I thought alot of it was relevant. I think you have been unfair to nodisharmony to say this grith.

Really. How is relevant to tell me to watch th GMTV on the day that Jo is on and the time that she is on. There wouldn't be much point in me tuning in two days and 12 hours later now would there. It was irrelevant like most of his posts.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Ruth

Your choice. The ignore button is there for a reason. I used it. Doesn't make me impolite.

Well now, that wasn't tactful or polite was it? Let me make it clear for you - if I put you on 'ignore', when I look at the thread, like magic, all of your posts disappear. So trying to understand what other people are responding to when I can't see your posts, is not easy. Clear enough for you?

Yes, there MAY be stuff that makes them look better. It has however been suggested that there was stuff in the edited out parts that makes them look worse.

Racist yes. Liars? Maybe - more likely they are just not able to accept the truth.

I don't go in for that part-time/full-time rubbish. That's your department.

Q&A Ruth vs nodisharmony
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*quote*Your choice. The ignore button is there for a reason. I used it. Doesn't make me impolite.*quote*

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answer:- Fair enough Ruth, it is your choice to ignore words and sentances which don't interest you, or you don't agree with
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*quote*Well now, that wasn't tactful or polite was it? Let me make it clear for you - if I put you on 'ignore', when I look at the thread, like magic, all of your posts disappear. So trying to understand what other people are responding to when I can't see your posts, is not easy. Clear enough for you?*quote*

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answer:- Okay, hardly part of a Jo/Jade discussion??
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*quote*Yes, there MAY be stuff that makes them look better. It has however been suggested that there was stuff in the edited out parts that makes them look worse.*quote*

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answer:- I also read that Endemol said that footage was deleted too. This means, that if an investigation follows, by Danielle & Jo, and the un-edited footage is handed over, then, parts could be missing, which could place the girls in a better light, but like you say Ruth, there could be other stuff.

It is better to leave well alone. That's my advice...
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*quote*Racist yes. Liars? Maybe - more likely they are just not able to accept the truth.*quote*
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answer:- Sorry Ruth, it just won't wash!!! Racist no. Liars, prove it. Accepting the truth, is debatable...
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*quote*I don't go in for that part-time/full-time rubbish. That's your department.*quote*
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answer:- If you don't go for that part-time/full-time racist stuff, that's up to you.

Why is it my department??
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A little late in my reply Ruth, but it has been a busy day for posting.

nodisharmony

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Dr43%er

That would be me or space bandit at a guess. I am not bothered if it is. I have made my thoughts very clear. No need to hide from it.[/quote]


You've hit the nail right on the head!!

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Jo O'Meara has her own mind and what she decides to do, will be her decision and no one elses.

Whether Danielle or Jade gets involved.

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by nodisharmony

Jade Goody can eat chips & drink Irn Bru anytime she likes.

If she put's on a little weight, she can always stick on her fitness video.

Jade is NOT a racist, as you see:- http://jadegoody.co.uk/

It is in BIG letters, so everyone can read it.

Jade used racist insults to attack someone, therefore she is a racist.

I would also regard, for example, corrupting a posters user name on a forum, i.e. Joey Da Dog to Joey Da *** to be the actions of a racist.

And again, therein lies the rub because YOU know all about that - hence your risible classifications of racist, Full Time, Part Time, Accidental - whatever..... to excuse behaviour, Jades, yours, whatever racist filth needs and excuse - the Ku Klux Klans, The National Socialist Party's etc etc.

I just cut the waffle and say that racists are all - S-C-U-M.

regarding Jades fitness video, you seem to imply she works out - with your comment, " If she put's on a little weight, she can always stick on her fitness video."

As we all now know, she doesn't, she may "work out" in small rehearsed doses purely for the camera, and in between makeup up touch ups and hairdressing, but when push comes to shove the lazy fat hypocrite cow gets liposuction.

Your heroine - a bullying, racist congenital liar. No wonder you are as you are.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by nodisharmony
Q&A Ruth vs nodisharmony

Ruth vs nodisharmony? This isn't a war!

*quote*Well now, that wasn't tactful or polite was it? Let me make it clear for you - if I put you on 'ignore', when I look at the thread, like magic, all of your posts disappear. So trying to understand what other people are responding to when I can't see your posts, is not easy. Clear enough for you?*quote*

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answer:- Okay, hardly part of a Jo/Jade discussion??

I agree. But it was YOU who first said that you were too tactful or polite to put anyone on ignore (a fact you have actually disproved yourself by being tactless and impolite). So why did you say that if it was not part of the Jo?Jade discussion?

*quote*Yes, there MAY be stuff that makes them look better. It has however been suggested that there was stuff in the edited out parts that makes them look worse.*quote*

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answer:- I also read that Endemol said that footage was deleted too. This means, that if an investigation follows, by Danielle & Jo, and the un-edited footage is handed over, then, parts could be missing, which could place the girls in a better light, but like you say Ruth, there could be other stuff.

It is better to leave well alone. That's my advice...

Yes - but YOU are the one who kept banging on about the fact that there might be stuff in the unseen footage which put the girls in a better light, or put Shilpa in a bad light. Now you are saying it's better to leave well alone. I couldn't agree more.

*quote*Racist yes. Liars? Maybe - more likely they are just not able to accept the truth.*quote*
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answer:- Sorry Ruth, it just won't wash!!! Racist no. Liars, prove it. Accepting the truth, is debatable...

Well it won't wash with you obviously. I think they are racist, based on the things they said in the house. As for liars - can you prove they weren't? Danielle lied about when she got together with Teddy Sheringham. She even slipped up herself about that and said that she had got together with him before she had originally claimed to have got together with him.

*quote*I don't go in for that part-time/full-time rubbish. That's your department.*quote*
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answer:- If you don't go for that part-time/full-time racist stuff, that's up to you.

Why is it my department??

I say it's your department, because you are the person who keeps saying that such a thing exists. Nobody else here seems to agree with you. That's all I meant.

[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Ruth

Ruth vs nodisharmony? This isn't a war!

I agree. But it was YOU who first said that you were too tactful or polite to put anyone on ignore (a fact you have actually disproved yourself by being tactless and impolite). So why did you say that if it was not part of the Jo?Jade discussion?

Yes - but YOU are the one who kept banging on about the fact that there might be stuff in the unseen footage which put the girls in a better light, or put Shilpa in a bad light. Now you are saying it's better to leave well alone. I couldn't agree more.

Well it won't wash with you obviously. I think they are racist, based on the things they said in the house. As for liars - can you prove they weren't? Danielle lied about when she got together with Teddy Sheringham. She even slipped up herself about that and said that she had got together with him before she had originally claimed to have got together with him.

I say it's your department, because you are the person who keeps saying that such a thing exists. Nobody else here seems to agree with you. That's all I meant.

Q&A Ruth vs nodisharmony

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*quote*Ruth vs nodisharmony? This isn't a war!
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answer:- I know, but sometimes it can seem that way?

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*quote*I agree. But it was YOU who first said that you were too tactful or polite to put anyone on ignore (a fact you have actually disproved yourself by being tactless and impolite). So why did you say that if it was not part of the Jo?Jade discussion?*quote*

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answer:- I am tactful & polite generally. Friendly too.

However, when I have the "3 girls" and even myself dissed in some way, (I shall'nt elaborate), then naturally, things can change and a microscopic bit of hostility in the tone and wording within my posts can follow.

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*quote*Yes - but YOU are the one who kept banging on about the fact that there might be stuff in the unseen footage which put the girls in a better light, or put Shilpa in a bad light. Now you are saying it's better to leave well alone. I couldn't agree more.*quote*

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answer:- It is a very educated assumption that there will be some damning footage in those hidden tapes which Endemol do not wish to hand over freely, without a court-order.

This definite, Agreed?

However, as I read that Endemol have said that certain material was deleted in the past, I can only assume, that by now, anything which could go against them in a future investigation, may have dissappeared by now?

So an investigation, started by Danielle Lloyd, with Jo O'Meara by her side, would be futile, in my opinion.

I would imagine that Jade Goody would stay away from this, as her advisors would be looking after her interests too.

Try to read between the lines here Ruth.

There's more than meets the eye there and even here.
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*quote*Well it won't wash with you obviously. I think they are racist, based on the things they said in the house. As for liars - can you prove they weren't? Danielle lied about when she got together with Teddy Sheringham. She even slipped up herself about that and said that she had got together with him before she had originally claimed to have got together with him.*quote*

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answer:- I am glad that you have noticed that it won't wash me me Ruth, that is quite plainly obvious, as I am on the defence side of all three girls.

If you think the words and comments were racist, that is your view and your right.

But, if I say that it was "Accidental maybe racial-over-tones", or as the CPS conclude, only offensive words and comments, then naturally, I shall have my view, which seems quite educated as the facts start to come through slowly.

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Danielle Lloyd is never out of the Newspapers and if you are comparing from what has been aired in the news and comparing it with the edited footage in the BB house, then it is a hard argument to deal with.

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*quote*I say it's your department, because you are the person who keeps saying that such a thing exists. Nobody else here seems to agree with you. That's all I meant*quote*

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answer:- Okay.. I shall take note of what you say on that point and ponder.


nodisharmony

[spacebandit]

Waffle
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Circles
Same ol' same ol'
Nothing new in the defense of the indefensible