[DouglasS]

It's usually when housemates become a threat to win that people strongly look at their character for flaws, It's happened with Raph, Chanelle and Ellie strongly. It'll happen to Deborah and Kieran soon I imagine. It's the same every year, it happened with Gina and Sam in BB14, Ashleigh in BB15, Danny, Chloe and Joel in BB16, Jason in BB17.

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Originally Posted by DouglasS

It's usually when housemates become a threat to win that people strongly look at their character for flaws, It's happened with Raph, Chanelle and Ellie strongly. It'll happen to Deborah and Kieran soon I imagine. It's the same every year, it happened with Gina and Sam in BB14, Ashleigh in BB15, Danny, Chloe and Joel in BB16, Jason in BB17.

Most series I back the winner, Ive a great track record for it, and my winner gets attacked as they are never the poplar ones,but do I moan ? no I dont, I post my stuff and ignore stuff thats OTT, its a pity others can't do the same

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

It's usually when housemates become a threat to win that people strongly look at their character for flaws, It's happened with Raph, Chanelle and Ellie strongly. It'll happen to Deborah and Kieran soon I imagine. It's the same every year, it happened with Gina and Sam in BB14, Ashleigh in BB15, Danny, Chloe and Joel in BB16, Jason in BB17.

Yes I agree with this,it's been noticeable with Ellie, no doubt Keiran will be in the firing line as soon as the final comes

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes I agree with this,it's been noticeable with Ellie, no doubt Keiran will be in the firing line as soon as the final comes

I still cannot pick out who's going to win this Kaz, its the hardest series I've known to predict ,at this minute i can see Deborah winning, for what reason she should win I don't know, but its a gut feeling I have, hope Im wrong though

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes I agree with this,it's been noticeable with Ellie, no doubt Keiran will be in the firing line as soon as the final comes

I like Kieran but without Deborah he would be seen even less than he is now.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

This is not a Raph hate thread , nor a baiting thread , I am just generally curious as to why people think he is a great housemate ? people say Charlotte, Keiran , Tom etc are essentially boring and want them out, but never mention Raph as equally boring, what has he actually done that stands out He is a nice guy, but surely his popularity must be solely because he is a TIBB member, if he was not , I am sure he would be named as one of the ones that should go all the time ,are people worried if they are not supporting him that it might have an impact on TIBB if he ever comes back? I am sure he is not that petty as to dislike people who supported others, maybe some think it will be like talking to a celeb if he comes back and they chat to him , I don't know, as I said nice enough guy,but not really very exciting or dynamic to watch ?

Completely agree he would be described as Vanilla in any other series, he is probably biding his time as people who sit on the fence do tend to do well as they come into there own in the last week or so

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Completely agree he would be described as Vanilla in any other series, he is probably biding his time as people who sit on the fence do tend to do well as they come into there own in the last week or so

I cannot see what he can give? like you say he's vanilla

[Vanessa]

I like Raph, because he's always polite and respectful. That's important for me in a housemate. Also he does stand up for himself when he has to.
I like that he's not argumentative, for me it's a very good thing. And he gets on with everyone.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I like Raph, because he's always polite and respectful. That's important for me in a housemate. Also he does stand up for himself when he has to.
I like that he's not argumentative, for me it's a very good thing. And he gets on with everyone.

Very polite and respectful...thats funny.

I would say rude arrogant and disrespectful..as shown when him and channy shunned simone.

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Very polite and respectful...thats funny.

I would say rude arrogant and disrespectful..as shown when him and channy shunned simone.

I dont find back stabbing and bare faced lying a nice quality either

[Jordan.]

I like him but he's not a great housemate, he could have left at any point in the series and it would have no impact on the quality.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I like him but he's not a great housemate, he could have left at any point in the series and it would have no impact on the quality.

This, really

[Littlegreen]

Well Lotan is still milking Raph in the press.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

Well Lotan is still milking Raph in the press.

The only way he can stay relevant. How sad

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

Well Lotan is still milking Raph in the press.

"If you’re willing to act like that on TV you’ve got to be a fool or gone in the head"

A genuine quote from the man ejected for being aggressive towards women

[Littlegreen]

I like that little smoking group (Kieran, Charlotte and Raph) I think that's where I'd probably hang about.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

I like that little smoking group (Kieran, Charlotte and Raph) I think that's where I'd probably hang about.

When he goes to smoke that's when he hangs out with Kieran, Tom and Charlotte.

[Littlegreen]

It was actually Joe that created the divide. He all but admitted on BOTS he stopped being friendly with Raph because he stuck up for Arthur.

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Originally Posted by Littlegreen

It was actually Joe that created the divide. He all but admitted on BOTS he stopped being friendly with Raph because he stuck up for Arthur.

Naahh sorry he didn't, it was Raph

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

It was actually Joe that created the divide. He all but admitted on BOTS he stopped being friendly with Raph because he stuck up for Arthur.

I think it was Tom when he told Joe about Raph VT. He liked him until his VT was mentioned.

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think it was Tom when he told Joe about Raph VT. He liked him until his VT was mentioned.

Yes that added more fuel to the fire.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Naahh sorry he didn't, it was Raph

Wait I've got the exact moment the divide was formed...

http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/06/big-br...e-tom-6689886/



^ her face!

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Originally Posted by Littlegreen

Yes that added more fuel to the fire.



Wait I've got the exact moment the divide was formed...

http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/06/big-br...e-tom-6689886/



^ her face!

Its was Raphs game plan

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Its was Raphs game plan

Raphs plan to divide them into 2 Bedrooms? Genius

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

It was actually Joe that created the divide. He all but admitted on BOTS he stopped being friendly with Raph because he stuck up for Arthur.

Raph sat in the Diary room and called himself Chanelle Hannah and Deborah the outsiders, that was very early on

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Raph sat in the Diary room and called himself Chanelle Hannah and Deborah the outsiders, that was very early on

That was after Tom told Joe about his vt.