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Wait thats why haha? I thought it was some old fashioned phrase so I never even questioned it. (It wasn't actually me btw, interesting to know that you would reference a light hearted vid months later in a serious discussion as a personal put down. Quite telling of the type of person you are).
There would be no need if you weren’t so quick to use personal put downs yourself - you were saying about being quite telling...
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Y'mean because of how peaceful the Middle East was before the Sykes-Picot Agreement?
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Y'mean because of how peaceful the Middle East was before the Sykes-Picot Agreement?
Our division of the Ottoman empire did change the course of history in the middle east and was an immoral act by the west that made that entire area more unstable and unpredictable. Everything since then has been about securing and preserving borders. Colonialism never really left the shores of that region. Whilst we became the protectorates of some, we became the enemies of others.

But I wasn’t meaning colonialism, though obviously that is the very root of the problem, I was talking war that was based on an American lie. Going in and leveling cities and re-establishing one puppet government with another. This was about taking over oil fields from an awkward dictator. It was about improving oil security for the U.S. This was about setting up a pricing cartel and save the U.S economy. The reason we took out Sadam ‘the axis of evil’ is because he switched oil from dollars to euros and the reason we are still gunning for Iran is because Iran did the same.

We, the West, have hardly minded our own business. Oil is more precious than gold and we got our hands very dirty in the handling of getting what we deemed to be our fare-share.
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We, we, we. I have no interest in collective blame. I can't take credit for white men on the moon, all muslims can't share the blame for terrorist acts, just like how Westerners in general can't share the blame for illadvised actions in the Middle East.
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We, we, we. I have no interest in collective blame. I can't take credit for white men on the moon, all muslims can't share the blame for terrorist acts, just like how Westerners in general can't share the blame for illadvised actions in the Middle East.
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We, we, we. I have no interest in collective blame. I can't take credit for white men on the moon, all muslims can't share the blame for terrorist acts, just like how Westerners in general can't share the blame for illadvised actions in the Middle East.
I'm damn well taking credit for my honky brothers who landed on the moon. That **** is all me.

If you want to blame anyone for Muslim terrorism, blame the crazy Jews. They started off this insanity with their goddamn holy book crammed full of crazy **** about talking snakes, parting seas and god texting mountains.

Kill all the Jews, and Muslim terrorism would never have happened. If only someone in history had tried this...
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OK honestly, I was kind of following this until the peg thing. Thats totally threw me off.
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I'm damn well taking credit for my honky brothers who landed on the moon. That **** is all me.

If you want to blame anyone for Muslim terrorism, blame the crazy Jews. They started off this insanity with their goddamn holy book crammed full of crazy **** about talking snakes, parting seas and god texting mountains.

Kill all the Jews, and Muslim terrorism would never have happened. If only someone in history had tried this...
1) We're not ALL crazy, it's only about 94% of us.
2) We're not that easy to **** with anymore, and
3) Without the Jews you and your honky brothers would still be earthbound.

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OK honestly, I was kind of following this until the peg thing. Thats totally threw me off.
It's not hard to follow. Brillo pegged Withano and now they're both wracked with guilt and shame.
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OK honestly, I was kind of following this until the peg thing. Thats totally threw me off.
She thought this was me because I said it was about three months ago, and I completely forgot about it until she explained


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We, we, we. I have no interest in collective blame. I can't take credit for white men on the moon, all muslims can't share the blame for terrorist acts, just like how Westerners in general can't share the blame for illadvised actions in the Middle East.
Collective?!?! have you never heard of an editorial ‘we’?
“we Brits get a lot of rain"
“we are a collective power”
“We as a country mourned the death of Princess Diana"

'We' is often used as a bond of empathy when there's a national tragedy or to represent humanity in general. I used it as an inclusive pronoun to the West, not to the individual; but I suspect you know that and your just spouting facetious outrage.
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What a crock of ****... many do lump all Muslims as a collective! And when it came to bombing the bejesus out of somewhere a couple of years a go there was a collective 'yes!'
I said no obv and was called 'unpatriotic'.... Like an elephant I never forget!

Colonialists turned a blind eye to subjugation due to the spoils so quit the bull and take the blame and the shame, you earned it!
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What a crock of ****... many do lump all Muslims as a collective! And when it came to bombing the bejesus out of somewhere a couple of years a go there was a collective 'yes!'
I said no obv and was called 'unpatriotic'.... Like an elephant I never forget!

Colonialists turned a blind eye to subjugation due to the spoils so quit the bull and take the blame and the shame, you earned it!
Rather like the PC brigade are conveniently turning a blind eye to the obvious subjugation of Muslim women in Britain (despite trying to convince us all that it is free choice, who the hell do they think they are trying to kid- only themselves maybe to conveniently fit in with their political beliefs) as they walk around covering themselves from head to toe, in their shame for being women, in the HERE and NOW.

Maybe they should take the blame and the shame they have clearly earned for not practicing what they preach.

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Rather like the PC brigade are conveniently turning a blind eye to the obvious subjugation of Muslim women in Britain (despite trying to convince us all that it is free choice, who the hell do they think they are trying to kid- only themselves maybe to conveniently fit in with their political beliefs) as they walk around covering themselves from head to toe, in their shame for being women, in the HERE and NOW.

Maybe they should take the blame and the shame they have clearly earned for not practicing what they preach.
So you believe people who are protective towards 'Muslim choice' are being politically correct and not because they fight against those who have hate inside them towards a percentage of the masses?

You see, this sort of response is the sort of thing that makes me go off on one. If someone said this on any channel but BB I'd tear them a new one, but on here Brillo your are snugly protected. Surrounded by a PC that protects the few but not the many. This place is your playground
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So you believe people who are protective towards 'Muslim choice' are being politically correct and not because they fight against those who have hate inside them towards a percentage of the masses?

You see, this sort of response is the sort of thing that makes me go off on one. If someone said this on any channel but BB I'd tear them a new one, but on here Brillo your are snugly protected. Surrounded by a PC that protects the few but not the many. This place is your playground

you could do this and risk the infraction, rather than the passive aggressive digs I guess
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People are suspicious of Muslims because, although not all Muslims are terrorists, all terrorists are Muslim... at least the ones wreaking havoc on the west are. But we don't know which ones, and that's the crux of it. So we're pretty much suspicious of all of them. That doesn't mean people don't recognise quite clearly that IS and their like kill more Muslims than non-Muslims.
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So you believe people who are protective towards 'Muslim choice' are being politically correct and not because they fight against those who have hate inside them towards a percentage of the masses?

You see, this sort of response is the sort of thing that makes me go off on one. If someone said this on any channel but BB I'd tear them a new one, but on here Brillo your are snugly protected. Surrounded by a PC that protects the few but not the many. This place is your playground
Why do I need protecting, I am not abusing Muslims and I am not promoting any kind of abuse towards anyone. You constantly accusing anyone who exercises their right to an opinon in their criticism of Islam as ‘being full of hate’ does a pretty good job though.

That almost sounds like some kind of disguised threat. So you would do what exactly if I dared express my opinion on a misogynistic religion on another site - try to deny me my opinions and shout me down with abuse. Good one.

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Oh come on, you come over as one of the most passive aggressive people on here.
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People are suspicious of Muslims because, although not all Muslims are terrorists, all terrorists are Muslim... at least the ones wreaking havoc on the west are. But we don't know which ones, and that's the crux of it. So we're pretty much suspicious of all of them. That doesn't mean people don't recognise quite clearly that IS and their like kill more Muslims than non-Muslims.
Oh dear Livia, you used the word 'we'... collective was it?!
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