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Greg! · 31-01-2018, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Paula D

Who's doing that? Please show us an example?

Read the thread yourself?

Paula D · 31-01-2018, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg!

Read the thread yourself?

I have done, no-one defending the use of conversion therapy at all.

Greg! · 31-01-2018, 04:42 PM

Try again

Greg! · 31-01-2018, 04:43 PM

Here are 2 examples of people defending or justifying it that Paula D must have missed

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Can people read ? instead of just being happy to believe people who dont like her, this story is not so black and white, she wanted to help gays who didn't WANT to be gay,so maybe go and read up ,people at one time thought it would cure them the gay person WANTED the therepy. loving these new words converstion therapy oh how people are grasping at it,

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Originally Posted by Ellen

She believes that people are entitled to get help if they have problems and that should also be afforded to gay people as well, at the time someone who was struggling with been gay or didnt want to be gay was not been given any help. When she worked at Samaritans they did not promote 'it is ok to be gay' to someone who hated or didnt want to be gay. That is why she agreed if gay people were struggling then they should have therapy like everybody else.

joeysteele · 31-01-2018, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg!

Here are 2 examples of people defending or justifying it that Paula D must have missed

It mystifies me too Greg.
It's one of the last things worthy of support or defence in any context.

Marches · 31-01-2018, 04:47 PM

Well tbh I don’t think they’re defending it they’re just trying to highlight there’s no malice in what she believes like I think the op and certain people believe. Obviously it doesn’t work and it’s diabolical but it doesn’t come from a place of ‘fuk gays they suck’. As such for me it doesn’t attack her character and it shouldn’t for anyone else viewing imo

Greg! · 31-01-2018, 04:49 PM

all I'm saying is I'm slightly shocked at people justifying it

Crimson Dynamo · 31-01-2018, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sullen Girl

i just saw this in another thread but it got locked so i’m continuing the discussion here teehee

what are your thoughts?

in MY opinion she’s scum

Do you know anything about it?

Fetch The Bolt Cutters · 31-01-2018, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Do you know anything about it?

don’t need to know anything about it

the name gives it away sis

‘conversion’ therapy

gays do not need to be converted and anyone that thinks they do, or supports the idea in any shape or form is SCUM

Vanessa · 31-01-2018, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sullen Girl

don’t need to know anything about it

the name gives it away sis

‘conversion’ therapy

gays do not need to be converted and anyone that thinks they do, or supports the idea in any shape or form is SCUM

bots · 31-01-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sullen Girl

don’t need to know anything about it

the name gives it away sis

‘conversion’ therapy

gays do not need to be converted and anyone that thinks they do, or supports the idea in any shape or form is SCUM

then equally those that do support it are entitled to say that those that disagree with it are SCUM .... do you not see where that ends up?

pontyboi · 31-01-2018, 06:55 PM

The first man I ever had a relationship with went through this. He was taken away from his family in his teens actually I think he was 12, strapped to a bed, given electro shock treatment, put in ice baths and it damaged him for life.

joeysteele · 31-01-2018, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pontyboi

The first man I ever had a relationship with went through this. He was taken away from his family in his teens actually I think he was 12, strapped to a bed, given electro shock treatment, put in ice baths and it damaged him for life.

Absolutely awful.

Beyond all decency and not in any way worthy of a scrap of support.
It really should be seen as assault.

Vicky. · 31-01-2018, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Absolutely awful.

Beyond all decency and not in any worthy of a scrap of support.
It really should be seen as assault.

Surely it would be today..should have been then too. Electroshock treatment should never ever have been a thing. Plus this was on a ****ing 12 year old. Whoever did that should have been jailed for child abuse tbh

Ammi · 31-01-2018, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Surely it would be today..should have been then too. Electroshock treatment should never ever have been a thing. Plus this was on a ****ing 12 year old. Whoever did that should have been jailed for child abuse tbh

..no, I’ve known it to be used quite recently, in the last few years.../..not for homosexuality I have to say, for severe depression...

Vicky. · 31-01-2018, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..no, I’ve known it to be used quite recently, in the last few years.../..not for homosexuality I have to say, for severe depression...

Shock treatment is still going? Jesus...

joeysteele · 31-01-2018, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Surely it would be today..should have been then too. Electroshock treatment should never ever have been a thing. Plus this was on a ****ing 12 year old. Whoever did that should have been jailed for child abuse tbh

Absolutely right Vicky.
That was despicable what was carried out there.

pontyboi · 31-01-2018, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Surely it would be today..should have been then too. Electroshock treatment should never ever have been a thing. Plus this was on a ****ing 12 year old. Whoever did that should have been jailed for child abuse tbh

It was assault.

The **** he told me as an 18 year old I was so shocked.

He went on to be Mr gay UK though so good for him.....the **** he described to me is like something you see on american horror story.

How can we support any of these issues? This isn't directed at you Vicky just at everyone I know if one of your children turned out gay you as a good person would not endorse them being made to have 1950s style electric shock treatment.

Ive loved how housemates have been able to talk freely this year it's made it a social experiment again but Ann to me is the female version of hitler.

Paula D · 31-01-2018, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pontyboi

It was assault.

The **** he told me as an 18 year old I was so shocked.

He went on to be Mr gay UK though so good for him.....the **** he described to me is like something you see on american horror story.

How can we support any of these issues? This isn't directed at you Vicky just at everyone I know if one of your children turned out gay you as a good person would not endorse them being made to have 1950s style electric shock treatment.

Ive loved how housemates have been able to talk freely this year it's made it a social experiment again but Ann to me is the female version of hitler.

So now Ann has killed people has she?

What an atrocious statement.

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Marsh. · 31-01-2018, 08:58 PM

Deflection, ignorance, selective memory.

Jamie89 · 31-01-2018, 09:03 PM

This thread reminded me of the scene in Bruno where he talks to a conversion therapist (or might have been ex-gay) but I couldn't find the clip and found this instead

it's pretty funny so I thought I'd post it

Youtube video