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Old 20-06-2018, 07:10 PM #1
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With both...and as a leader i am fully expecting trump to better any crap that suspected paedophile on some conspiracy theorists websites,obama could come up with.
Talk about how this had been going on under Obama too, sure. But crap like that makes it hard to take what you say seriously. Some websites think he's the Anti-Christ as well, why not throw that in?

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I wouldnt believe any of these pics...its already been proven that some are from 2014 during a protest against the democrats original policy.
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I wouldnt believe any of these pics...its already been proven that some are from 2014 during a protest against the democrats original policy.
The pictures were released by the government themselves because they didn't allow reporters and other visitors to take their own pictures.
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The pictures were released by the government themselves because they didn't allow reporters and other visitors to take their own pictures.
Not all of them.
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Not all of them.
Explain the logic of it to me because I don't see it. The government didn't allow for pictures to be taken so they release inflammatory pictures themselves that can easily be seen as fake? Why? Explain it to me.

You've either made this up or you've got it from a very unreliable source.
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Explain the logic of it to me because I don't see it. The government didn't allow for pictures to be taken so they release inflammatory pictures themselves that can easily be seen as fake? Why? Explain it to me.

You've either made this up or you've got it from a very unreliable source.
People are using photos from 2014 to stoke up anger and hate...the photos were taken at a protest that involved kids behind cages...the protest was against the democrats immigration policies.....im sure ive said that earlier......I DO NOT MAKE STUFF UP.
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The pictures were released by the government themselves because they didn't allow reporters and other visitors to take their own pictures.
The lengths people go to in order to justify/ignore/excuse these actions are pretty enlightening.
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Ah, so you're moving the goalposts.
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Ah, so you're moving the goalposts.
What are you on about now...why have i moved goalposts...i stated clear enough originally that there are fake photos going around...only you can explain why you thought i was claiming they were gov pics when i said they are fake and not from 2018..just looking for anything these days are we?
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Fake news doesn't detract from what the government have released, the outrage has come from the statements and evidence provided by the government. You can't cite fake news to override that or downplay the issue.
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Fake news doesn't detract from what the government have released, the outrage has come from the statements and evidence provided by the government. You can't cite fake news to override that or downplay the issue.


Most of the outrage is coming from people hearing and seeing crying children...some of which is fake...
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Most of the outrage is coming from people hearing and seeing crying children...some of which is fake...
The audio isn't fake nor is the pictures released by the government of kids in cages.

As I said before, citing fake news to downplay government released photos and actual audio evidence of abuse will not work.

You can't focus on one inconsequential fake news story because it benefits your viewpoints while ignoring the majority of the story because it goes against what you want to be true.
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But you can say kids in cages, when its kids in caged areas...
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Oh forgive me, that makes it all okay then

They are separating children from their parents and locking them up while you've got guards like the one in the audio mocking them for their tears. It is state sanctioned child abuse.
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Oh forgive me, that makes it all okay then

They are separating children from their parents and locking them up while you've got guards like the one in the audio mocking them for their tears. It is state sanctioned child abuse.
Parents putting thier kids lives and well being at risk dont deserve to keep thier kids imo.
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Where are the pictures of kids in cages? All I can find are the pictures from protests.
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Parents putting thier kids lives and well being at risk dont deserve to keep thier kids imo.
So you agree with the practice then, okay. Werk.

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Where are the pictures of kids in cages? All I can find are the pictures from protests.
Look for government pictures, there's plenty of images and plus the audio evidence is undeniable. There's no pretending this isn't happening or blaming anyone else but the government in charge.
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Look for government pictures, there's plenty of images and plus the audio evidence is undeniable. There's no pretending this isn't happening or blaming anyone else but the government in charge.
I didn't deny it was happening. Where are the government pictures? I googled "government pictures children separated trump" and none of the articles showed anything like those from the protests?
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Oh look, it's not just 'older kids' that have been seperated from their families either.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-shelters.html

Even got a Daily Mail source condemning it so you know it's ****ed when even the DM takes a stand against immigration measures.

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Seems its been going on for over 10 years...
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-lost-children


Amazing what some unconfirmed pictures and audios can do to hl an issue thats over 10 years old.
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Seems its been going on for over 10 years...
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-lost-children


Amazing what some unconfirmed pictures and audios can do to hl an issue thats over 10 years old.
yeah but Trump is #LiterallyHitler and detaining people in (physical) safety who are trying to break into another country is exactly the same as rounding up citizens and placing them in death camps.
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yeah but Trump is #LiterallyHitler and detaining people in (physical) safety who are trying to break into another country is exactly the same as rounding up citizens and placing them in death camps.
Yes... it's exactly the same.
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