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Piss orf.
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Whatever it was, all I see is a strong determined women who could have walked at anytime with nothing more than an understanding nod from the public as she went.
Bit no! She stayed, doggedly battling away to get us out this mess we got ourselves in. Doing it for us. Not herself,not her party, just us. She hasn't shunned the desperation of her plight, nor been visibly fazed by the indignation or scorn put upon her from her greedy self serving lynch mob. The whole world has had its say, but our prime minister has kept smiling, kept fighting like a prime minister for the people should. |
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Piss orf.
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This Witch doesn't burn
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This is the non voters mess, no one else's
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Flag shagger.
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Deny, Defend, Depose.
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I'm not even sure how this is in anyway possible. The vote may have been lost because of non-voters, but everything that has happened since that date has been solely on the backs of those that voted leave, and the government trying to action it out.
You can't get what you want, then turn around and blame others when what you voted for turned out to be the ****show it was obviously going to be all along. Take your victory and enjoy it.
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This Witch doesn't burn
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The mess that is the tory government and brexit? I mean, in part, but not really anywhere near as directly as it it the tories’ and the brexiteers? Nice try but no.
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Jolly good
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Didn't Corbyn get about the same percentage as May tonight, in his last leadership election?
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Remembering Kerry
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Corbyn has had bad results in votes of confidence yes, however he is only the opposition leader. This is a no confidence vote in the serving PM of the present government in power. The result showing not just that 117 don't want her as PM and leader but they also have no confidence in her. All from her own Party. 200 of them do, for now but for a PM to have to say, she will guarantee not to lead them into a general election in 2022, in order to get votes to remain PM now, is at best farcical and worst near disastrous. After only 30 months as Prime Minister too. |
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SIGH
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Queen of surviving
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Banned
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I lived for the drama of it all tbh.
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Senior Moment
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Rees-Mogg has thankfully exposed himself as the spiteful toad that he is today, hopefully enough people have taken notice of his true colours.
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Sod orf
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Remembering Kerry
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Then arrive with some deal, hardly anyone likes, even as to a heavy chunk of her own Party, in Parliament. Never known a Government be held in contempt and pulling votes at the last minute. It's like even a pantomime gone wrong. For me the problem is, you cannot believe or trust a thing Mrs May says. I have little I support as to Rees- Mogg, however he has always been solid and consistent in his view and passion to be out the EU. With the right conditions for the UK as fits his agenda. I don't agree with him on that but admire that he doesn't waver and has stuck to his stance on this all through. Unlike this useless PM, who says one minute, this is the deal, there's no other, nothing can be added, changed or taken away from it. Then says she's off to negotiate and get a piece of paper possibly for her to try to deceive Parliament and the Country again with. Honestly, how anyone still believes a word she says is a mystery to me, after her botched election last year, which she promised would never happen until 2020. Then her objectionable and terrible judgements as to Ministerial appointments. Even though I'm on the opposite side of him as to leaving the EU, I'll take Rees-Mogg and his honesty any day over Mrs May's endless ignorance and political deceit. Last edited by joeysteele; 13-12-2018 at 08:16 AM. |
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I'd be careful what you wish for Joey, May might be utterly useless as a PM but she is still vaguely human (as Tories go). I 100% believe that Smogg would happily scrap every last penny of benefits and have children back in the workhouses if he believed he could get away with it... he's the sort of person who thinks of anyone below the upper-middle classes as little more than work dogs. He is a toxic, uncaring elitist and has been since he was old enough to hold a pencil.
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Remembering Kerry
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I actually don't think any leaders we have in England are PM material. I admire his honesty and stance re brexit. I actually do also, even though I abhore some of his personal views, at least he doesn't hide or cover them up. I have many Conservative voter friends and many are Conservative Party members. I am sure from them, there's no chance of Rees-Mogg or his like, getting enough support from the mainstream fairer and decent Conservatives, to ever likely reach a Ministerial position and certainly not Leader or PM. No I'm not wishing for him to lead government TS. No way, don't worry. On brexit, I admire his own honesty more however than this total waste of space, deceiving PM we currently have the misfortune to be stuck with. Last edited by joeysteele; 13-12-2018 at 08:55 AM. |
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George & Alexis Warr!
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200 votes backing May, 117 against her
83 vote difference that's more than i was expecting
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The voice of reason
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did corbyn get a lot less just the other year?
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self-oscillating
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Getting rid of May at this point wont achieve anything, there isn't going to be another deal. To have a deal, both sides need to agree and the EU wont agree to anything else. So, if the consensus is that this deal isn't acceptable (whatever the reason) then that leaves 2 choices .... a hard brexit or don't leave. It's not difficult to understand.
I have no idea what the PM thinks she is going to achieve by delaying the commons vote on it, the result isn't going to change. It's not going to get approved. So, we either hard brexit or stay in .... that's what the people need to be given the right to choose ... and sooner rather than later. |
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If Labour /SNP/LibDem and Some Possible Angry Conservatives
call for a No Confidence Vote the PM could end up gone Last edited by arista; 13-12-2018 at 10:54 AM. |
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self-oscillating
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George & Alexis Warr!
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Rees-Mogg leading those angry conservatives i think
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Remembering Kerry
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I cannot see even the harder brexit MPs supporting an opposition no confidence motion. If the awful DUP were to indicate they'd support it or at least abstain. Then it would have a chance. The DUP won't bring this government down until possibly this deal gets passed. I wouldn't trust the DUP even then. It's sad for me a Party like the DUP now has so much influence and indeed the real power in the UK Parliament. |
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