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so it seems she felt humiliated by being filmed and to get "revenge" se made up the rape allegation

she will now be severely punished for her lies
Let's forget the fact she was intimidated into retracting her statement
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Let's forget the fact she was intimidated into retracting her statement
the full facts have been tried in a court of law

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so it seems she felt humiliated by being filmed and to get "revenge" se made up the rape allegation

she will now be severely punished for her lies


Still seems a strange scenario if I’m correct in thinking she was having sex with a tourist (possibly for money ) with eleven other guys in the room .

It all sounds very odd.. .maybe she agreed to sleep with the guy and then they all joined in .. basic pack mentality


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Still seems a strange scenario if I’m correct in thinking she was having sex with a tourist (possibly for money ) with eleven other guys in the room .

It all sounds very odd.. .maybe she agreed to sleep with the guy and then they all joined in .. basic pack mentality


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Hang on...now she's a prostitute?


Don’t take up the legal profession...

I said possibly as in maybe.... just throwing out a possibility as to why a young woman would agree to have sex with a complete stranger with a group of guys in the room ..


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I said possibly as in maybe.... just throwing out a possibility as to why a young woman would agree to have sex with a complete stranger with a group of guys in the room ..


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The Foreign Office has issued a statement, the girl is being stitched up I think
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The Foreign Office has issued a statement, the girl is being stitched up I think
they can raise concerns but justice has been served and the court will sentence on the 7th

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they can raise concerns but justice has been served and the court will sentence on the 7th

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"The confession looks like it was written by a Cypriot rather than a British 19 year old in a country that has a track record for corruption, the UK police and Foreign Office think something is up and the government is even getting involved but JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED so end of."

Unquestioning adherence to systems of authority isn't sensible LT. I think you think it's sensible/mature? It isn't.

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There is obviously a bad smell about this case. I lived in Cyprus for 3+ years so I can say with some authority that the place outwardly appears to be like a mini uk but it's really like an alternative reality. The police and judicial systems are corrupt .... very .... as are all their systems of administration and banks etc. Women do not have the same rights as men. There may outwardly be laws in place to protect people, but the Cypriot way to deal with that is to ignore the law and carry on regardless. Anyone that has spent time in Cyprus will know this.
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Yet they did it all in a room with no cameras so they couldn't be proved of intimidating a witness

The fact they had evidence of her unresponsive on the actual DeX tape should be enough but it wasnt
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The whole case is dodgy as **** and as soon as it became international news and politics started getting involved she didn't stand a chance. Collateral damage in a messed up system. She's barely an adult, the whole thing is an absolute mess.
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the whole thing is very dodgy. She was refused a lawyer be present when she "signed" her confession. The case should have been thrown out on that alone.
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The whole case is dodgy as **** and as soon as it became international news and politics started getting involved she didn't stand a chance. Collateral damage in a messed up system. She's barely an adult, the whole thing is an absolute mess.
if you look at it rationally, how likely is the initial claim?

id say its pretty unlikely
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if you look at it rationally, how likely is the initial claim?

id say its pretty unlikely
You didn't strike me as someone who has lead a sheltered life LT but if you think these things don't happen (plenty) then I can only assume that you have?

I also personally think that filming without consent should be considered a form of sexual assault anyway.
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You didn't strike me as someone who has lead a sheltered life LT but if you think these things don't happen (plenty) then I can only assume that you have?

I also personally think that filming without consent should be considered a form of sexual assault anyway.
You are saying that young women are raped by 12 boys is a regular thing on holidays in the med?


where are you getting that info from?
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Reading about the actions of the police and how the Judge refused to hear certain evidence paints a grim picture. I don't know how anyone could follow this story and say without a shadow of doubt that justice has been served when the police have blatantly acted in incredibly dodgy ways.

I hope this goes all the way to the top, the truth must be exposed and if it comes down to it, corruption must be cut out where it's found.
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[UK to raise concerns with Cyprus after British teen is found guilty of false rape claim]
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...ughhhh... I do hope so, Kizzy...I mean, we like to think that, don’t we...but there is also, dreadful wrongs and injustices.....
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Casual Sex can be risky, casual sex in another country adds another level of risk.

Hopefully people seeing this case will think twice about sex with strangers while on holiday.
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This case will just destroy all relations between The UK and Cypeua and for that Cyprus will be sorry
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This case will just destroy all relations between The UK and Cypeua and for that Cyprus will be sorry
It won't do ****. Countries allow for a lot of terrible **** to happen to it's citizens abroad but there's rarely political action because it's not ultimately worth losing an ally for in their eyes.

The most they'll ever do 99% of the time is voice their displeasure and hope that the media applies pressure on their behalf so that they can advise the country in question to deport the prisoner instead. The UK would never cut ties with Cyprus over something like this. It's completely naive to think that they would.
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