[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Katie Hopkins' twitter feed. Someone's running out of material.

[bots]

i genuinely question if anyone on this forum saying the message is confusing doesn't know exactly what they should be doing at the moment. I think this is an example of people being confused for others and not themselves

[Withano]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i genuinely question if anyone on this forum saying the message is confusing doesn't know exactly what they should be doing at the moment. I think this is an example of people being confused for others and not themselves

It’s all well and good knowing what we personally should be doing. But we share a country (and supermarkets and public spaces) with tens of millions of idiots who are now vindicated in doing what they want to be doing.

This strain of poorly thought through argument is tired and pointless.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Withano

It’s all well and good knowing what we personally should be doing. But we share a country (and supermarkets and public spaces) with tens of millions of idiots who are now vindicated in doing what they want to be doing.

This strain of poorly thought through argument is tired and pointless.

So basically you acknowledge that people personally know exactly what they should do, and you are making a judgement that others are too stupid to understand it. That says more about you than it does about the government.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

So basically you acknowledge that people personally know exactly what they should do, and you are making a judgement that others are too stupid to understand it. That says more about you than it does about the government.

You think the death rate will go up or down in the next three weeks?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Withano

You think the death rate will go up or down in the next three weeks?

the death rate will reflect the number of infected and their demographic as it always has. People are going to die until we get a vaccine or effective treatment, all we can do is keep it so that the NHS is not overwhelmed, I don't know why people are finding that so difficult to understand. If people practice effective social distancing, there should be no marked increase that would cause the NHS to buckle

[Liam-]

It’s not about being a Tory supporter it’s about being objective in if the government is doing a good job or not, the only ones not being objective are the Tories unfortunately, but not unsurprisingly

[Kizzy]

I have been extremely generous in only putting bad job this far and as a Labour supporter that pains me, there are areas that have been terrible but I'm hoping against hope they will manage this phasing out of lockdown effectively while protecting everyone to prevent another spike.

Can I point out that as I showed in the last poll tibb responses were aligned with the general population.

[Tom4784]

It's a pandemic, if you're more concerned with defending your party of choice over scrutinising the government over how they are handling things then you're priorities are honestly ****ed.

Boris ****ed up on Sunday and the government's messaging since then has been mixed, contradictory and ineffective. It doesn't matter which party is in charge, a response like this should be criticised.

Look beyond your own agendas and see the bigger picture.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Boris ****ed up on Sunday

I do think this is the part where even people who think they're generally doing OK need to conceed a bit; Boris' "speech" on Sunday was an absolute shambles. Like... in any scenario. It was just bad. Muddled, unclear, ineffective and lacking in anything resembling confident leadership.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I do think this is the part where even people who think they're generally doing OK need to conceed a bit; Boris' "speech" on Sunday was an absolute shambles. Like... in any scenario. It was just bad. Muddled, unclear, ineffective and lacking in anything resembling confident leadership.

i don't disagree with that, but at it's heart we are in a democracy, where people expect and are granted freedom to practice common sense, where guidelines have been given.

I asked a genuine question earlier, does anyone honestly not understand at this point what they need to do to keep safe. I'm still waiting on 1 person to say they don't know what to do and yet we have so many saying the message is confusing ... it doesn't add up, sorry, it is politically driven hate toward the government ... and i didn't vote at the last election so i am no fan of Boris

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't disagree with that, but at it's heart we are in a democracy, where people expect and are granted freedom to practice common sense, where guidelines have been given.

I asked a genuine question earlier, does anyone honestly not understand at this point what they need to do to keep safe. I'm still waiting on 1 person to say they don't know what to do and yet we have so many saying the message is confusing ... it doesn't add up, sorry, it is politically driven hate toward the government ... and i didn't vote at the last election so i am no fan of Boris

Do folks know what to do because of Boris' message, or in spite of it? No one is keeping themselves completely safe, unless they're living in a bunker with enough canned goods to see out the apocalypse.

The only thing we can do is mitigate the risk as much as possible, but now boris has given an excuse to those that wanted to scrap being sensible, then even our mitigated risk is now a lot higher because we don't know what everyone else is doing to keep themselves as safe as possible.

627 deaths reported in last 24hrs, so pretty much nothing has happened to give Boris or any other parties leader the green light to kick everyone back into the petri dish without reason.

[The Slim Reaper]

Chris Giles is the economics editor for the FT.

If you open the whole thread, he offers some more optimistic information too.

[Oliver_W]

Given that by all accounts BoJo had always wanted to be PM, I really dared to hope he'd really come into his own during this crisis, and would come out swinging and really knock it out of the park, especially since getting the illness himself.

Alas, not...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Given that by all accounts BoJo had always wanted to be PM, I really dared to hope he'd really come into his own during this crisis, and would come out swinging and really knock it out of the park, especially since getting the illness himself.

Alas, not...

He's out of his depth, he's a career politician... not a leader... and that's becoming increasingly clear. The "game" of politics - the game he's very good at - is about charming people, manipulating, negotiating and rising through the ranks.

Now he's in the top job with nowhere to go and, surprise surprise, he seems to be totally lost. You can't charm, manipulate or negotiate with a virus... his primary skillset is useless here, in a crisis situation.