[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well, genuinely speaking, if you make a career telling racist jokes and appealing to racist crowds because of it, there's pretty much a certainty there that you are a racist.

There's no irony with this 'comedian's' jokes, it's just straight up bigotry for bigots to guffaw at, and if that doesn't appeal to the owners of a venue then it's within their rights to deny them the stage.

But it's what they like to watch. Can't we just let them enjoy themselves? Why do we have to interfere in their lives and try to make their lives a little less pleasurable for them than it could be?

[Tom4784]

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[Alf]

Thank you very much, what a lovely compliment.

[Tom4784]

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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If you throw a party and someone turns up who is drunk and disorderly and you don't want them to be there, you have every right to tell them to leave. It's your house, your party and you don't have to take the feelings of that party goer into account if you think they are being damaging in any way because it's your house and they aren't entitled to stay.

I hear what you're saying there, however, this is a public event, for the public. Nobody's own home comes into the equation. It's just a bit nasty to go around spoiling people's enjoyment, it's not very civilized. It's the opposite of inclusive, which I always thought you'd be against that?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If you throw a party and someone turns up who is drunk and disorderly and you don't want them to be there, you have every right to tell them to leave. It's your house, your party and you don't have to take the feelings of that party goer into account if you think they are being damaging in any way because it's your house and they aren't entitled to stay.

an evening of comedy (not my cup of tea but folks like it) is in no way comparable with an aggressive drunk ruining a party ffs

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

an evening of comedy (not my cup of tea but folks like it) is in no way comparable with an aggressive drunk ruining a party ffs

In this case it's more like someone showing up to a party they weren't invited to and closing it down.

I have no interest in seeing Roy Chubby Brown, so I'm going to cry about it and ruin it for everyone else not buy a ticket and not go. Which is the solution everyone who doesn't like him should take.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

In this case it's more like someone showing up to a party they weren't invited to and closing it down.

I have no interest in seeing Roy Chubby Brown, so I'm going to cry about it and ruin it for everyone else not buy a ticket and not go. Which is the solution everyone who doesn't like him should take.

its virtue signalling and tells us so much more about the vanity of this this hard-left councilor than it ever does about the comedian

[Tom4784]

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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's up to the owners of the venue if they want certain acts to perform or not. It's their stage, their platform, and no one is entitled to perform on it without their permission to do so.

The venue was fine to host him until the City Trust stepped in and called off the figurative party.

If people didn't bitch and moan, he could perform his show to a dozen or so people, and those who don't like him could just not attend.

[Alf]

Very well said by Sheffield's Liberal Democrats leader.

Spot on.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

Very well said by Sheffield's Liberal Democrats leader.

Spot on.

Succinctly put

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Succinctly put

My drag name.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Succinctly put

imagine a lib dem exposing it for what it is

[Parmy]

It's the same as the council banning that old bloke from peeing with a placard against the labour party round his neck.

[Parmy]

Wouldnt a city hall be publicly owned?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Wouldnt a city hall be publicly owned?

I would expect it to be

[Alf]

What we do know is that this labour MP cheers on the intolerance shown towards Royston and his fans.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Alf

What we do know is that this labour MP cheers on the intolerance shown towards Royston and his fans.

She even ends by calling it a welcoming city. Yeah, right love. A welcoming city that doesn't welcome people is not really a welcoming city, is it?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Alf

What we do know is that this labour MP cheers on the intolerance shown towards Royston and his fans.

She even uses the word "Cancel" she does that because she's very, very proud of the new cancel culture.

[user104658]

Hmm it seems maybe there is an element of public funding? either way that's not really an argument since it can just be done circularly. Some will want it to go ahead, some will not, all pay taxes, so the decision can’t be in public hands.

On balance though I think an arbitrary cancellation is a bit harsh, if it’s based on assumptions of content. I think (if this is not what happened) the venue holders should have asked him for a script or outline of the show’s content and made the decision from there. If it seemed fine from the outline and then went wildly off-piste they’d be able to say that in their defense, and would be justified in then banning him (as would other venue holders).

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hmm it seems maybe there is an element of public funding? either way that's not really an argument since it can just be done circularly. Some will want it to go ahead, some will not, all pay taxes, so the decision can’t be in public hands.

As with a lot of these things, the "vote" should be done with people's wallets. If hardly anyone shows up, the venue (or booking agent, whatever) will lose money, and probably won't bother again.

[Alf]

Why these people in positions of power and trust get away with this bigotry is because nobody does anything but talk about it. They're not bothered about people chatting about it, what needs to happen is action taken against them. It's discrimination and all involved need to be finding new careers.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Why these people in positions of power and trust get away with this bigotry is because nobody does anything but talk about it. They're not bothered about people chatting about it, what needs to happen is action taken against them. It's discrimination and all involved need to be finding new careers.

Sure let's have them cancelled like they cancelled chubby because being cancelled is fine as long as it happens to the people I don't like.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Sure let's have them cancelled like they cancelled chubby because being cancelled is fine as long as it happens to the people I don't like.

They did something to deserve it, Chubby didn't.