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Old 02-11-2022, 08:38 PM #1
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I actually didn't know that statistic.

I do wonder though if the stats are a bit skewed because a lot of terrorist acts don't actually get labelled as terrorism in this country?
What like when West Ham ICF batter a load of Spurs fans

is that Terrorism?

or if 2 Doormen knock the granny out of a mouthy teen?

Is that Terrorism?
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What like when West Ham ICF batter a load of Spurs fans

is that Terrorism?

or if 2 Doormen knock the granny out of a mouthy teen?

Is that Terrorism?
When a Asian person does something its terrorism when a white person does the exact same they are labeled mental ill
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What like when West Ham ICF batter a load of Spurs fans

is that Terrorism?

or if 2 Doormen knock the granny out of a mouthy teen?

Is that Terrorism?
Despite being horrible crimes that you've described, they're not technically attacking an entire community (basically streets or entire Cities) which is where I'm personally drawing the line at Terrorism.

The official definition of terrorism is this:
"The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

Which if everyone is being fair, both the Far Right Terrorists and the Islamic terrorists are extremely political with their violence.
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Far right terrorism is a much bigger issue in the UK then Islamic terrorism despite what people will have you belive
Not to me it's not.
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Far right terrorism is a much bigger issue in the UK then Islamic terrorism despite what people will have you belive
You have a point tbh, because sometimes the country in general doesn't recognize situations like trying to attack a group of people in a Van as terrorism, when it clearly is.
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not the whole far right terror myth again
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Only people with chips on their shoulders and agendas would say that people who have suspicious intentions would try to make out right wing terrorism is not an issue
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Only people with suspicious intentions would try to make out right wing terrorism is not an issue
Who's trying to make it not an issue? If you want to make things up, fine. But if you want to pretend you're not pulling stuff out of your hat, it might help if you have sources for the increases abojt which you're talking.
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Poor bloke lost hos cock to cancer, and his head to a car noose.
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Poor bloke lost hos cock to cancer, and his head to a car noose.

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many others with Terminal Cancer
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The bloke was dying of cancer and decided to make a martyr of himself.

He looks like a homeless rag, a man disillusioned with society, let down by his politicians because of the colour of his skin.

Chucked a few IRA type petrol bombs at a brick wall then tied a noose round his kneck and tied the other end to a tree, before jumping in his car to speed off.

A fool of a man, a man now listed as a far right extremist by the media and social commentators on TIBB. All he seemed to be was a man on death row, exasperated enough with the state of his country that he would do this.

He should have surrendered, and he would have recieved all the care and attention he wasnt receiving for his illness because he was a common criminal.
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The bloke was dying of cancer and decided to make a martyr of himself.

He looks like a homeless rag, a man disillusioned with society, let down by his politicians because of the colour of his skin.

Chucked a few IRA type petrol bombs at a brick wall then tied a noose round his kneck and tied the other end to a tree, before jumping in his car to speed off.

A fool of a man, a man now listed as a far right extremist by the media and social commentators on TIBB. All he seemed to be was a man on death row, exasperated enough with the state of his country that he would do this.

He should have surrendered, and he would have recieved all the care and attention he wasnt receiving for his illness because he was a common criminal.


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The bloke was dying of cancer and decided to make a martyr of himself.

He looks like a homeless rag, a man disillusioned with society, let down by his politicians because of the colour of his skin.

Chucked a few IRA type petrol bombs at a brick wall then tied a noose round his kneck and tied the other end to a tree, before jumping in his car to speed off.

A fool of a man, a man now listed as a far right extremist by the media and social commentators on TIBB. All he seemed to be was a man on death row, exasperated enough with the state of his country that he would do this.

He should have surrendered, and he would have recieved all the care and attention he wasnt receiving for his illness because he was a common criminal.
If all the same things applied as above but his skin were brown, would you say they same thing? Or would you believe it was terrorism? It is quite telling that you said he threw IRA type petrol bombs. Considering the IRA were comsodered terrorists, surely it is an act of terrorism that he followed their MO?
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I was genuinely interested though and ill so thought I'd foray....I've lost interest now though lol
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I was genuinely interested though and ill so thought I'd foray....I've lost interest now though lol
Bit rude when I've answered your question.
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If all the same things applied as above but his skin were brown, would you say they same thing? Or would you believe it was terrorism? It is quite telling that you said he threw IRA type petrol bombs. Considering the IRA were comsodered terrorists, surely it is an act of terrorism that he followed their MO?
a single man with terminal cancer is the same as a criminal murderous planned terror organisation who killed thousands of innocent men, women and childen?

f me

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a single man with terminal cancer is the same as a criminal murderous planned terror organisation who killed thousands of innocent men, women and childen?

f me

are you sure?
Yes because that's exactly what I said. Don't put words in my mouth, I don't play your games LT and it is now really boring. Dying of terminal cancer does not give anyone the right to risk the lives of others, no matter what. End of.
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If all the same things applied as above but his skin were brown, would you say they same thing? Or would you believe it was terrorism? It is quite telling that you said he threw IRA type petrol bombs. Considering the IRA were comsodered terrorists, surely it is an act of terrorism that he followed their MO?
When I say IRA, I was referring to the riots, where petrol bombs are thrown at the police line. The ones you see bouncing off the riot shields in a tiny explosion, before melting away in the breeze.


All the above(above my reply, that you refer to) would not apply to someone with different coloured skin. Therefore I cant reply yes or no.
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For me it’s very simple, I don’t care about left or right bullsh1t

We should be helping those who are genuine and sending back those that are not.
Reward the good and punish the bad
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If it was truly a pre-suicide "fuck you" to the people he genuinely perceived as being responsible for draining money and resources away from the services which should have treated his cancer ... then it can't be called terrorism. Not truly.

But if he thought throwing a few mediocre molotov cocktails at the exterior gates of the migrant centre while passing by in his car might kill everyone inside? Then sure, ne was a terrorist.
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the majority of isis folks that attack western targets make martyrs of themselves, so does that mean they are not terrorists either? Weird

Anyone that attacks another individual or group where the intention is to cause terror is a terrorist and throwing petrol bombs either kills or injures people and causes terror. End of
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the majority of isis folks that attack western targets make martyrs of themselves, so does that mean they are not terrorists either? Weird

Anyone that attacks another individual or group where the intention is to cause terror is a terrorist and throwing petrol bombs either kills or injures people and causes terror. End of
I can see your logic but one size doesn’t fit all in these cases

Individuals kill one or lots of people for different reasons they may cause terror but they are not classified as terrorists
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