[FromBB8]

Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

Because she knows they're right probably

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Zizu

This is one of the flaws with forums
You have been influenced by one of Ali’s fiercest critics ..


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That text says nothing about self-diagnosis or not.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

I think everyone appreciates that but, at the same time, it should not give anyone carte blanche to be free of criticism for their behaviour in the house.

Not so much an excuse more a possible explanation


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by vesavius

That text says nothing about self-diagnosis or not.

You’d rather take notice of one of Ali’s haters ?


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[jones89]

Originally Posted by Beso

Is there a possibility the real Ali is locked up in a cupboard somewhere and this is one of her "clients"

You know whaaaa?.. we’re gonna have to look into this cause that didn’t even cross my mind

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Zizu

This is one of the flaws with forums
You have been influenced by one of Ali’s fiercest critics ..


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To use your logic..

They havnt met her.
They are judging on a condensed clip heavily edited by bb.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Zizu

You’d rather take notice of one of Ali’s haters ?

Sometimes

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Sometimes

Nuff said


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[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

In general I agree with you but that particular discussion wasn't bad at all, at least Marcellos part in it anyway(for once), as others have said he wasn't the only one participating in it but he seemed to be the only one that Ali had the issue with afterwards.

Marcello seemed to be the one leading the conversation though and he was the one who made the particular comment about "ejaculating" which is what I think she was uncomfortable listening to

Originally Posted by vesavius

And a person fully has the right to not like that, but pretending that her job depended on it was cheap and manipulative. Shutting down conversations that you don't personally like is toxic and controlling. A normal person in a shared situation simply chooses to not be part of it for the couple of minutes it is happening.

Instead of sitting in judgement of the conversations of others, she might want to actually try and be interesting enough to have a conversation of her own with people she likes (if she actually likes anyone in there, which I doubt).

But, yeah, he didn't say anything wild... These conversations have happened literally every year. Emma's jokes have been way way more crude (but I still like her).

This wasn't about what he said though,not really. It was about it being a long five minutes since Ali had shut someone down and she loves doing that way too much.

We don't know too much about the specific details of her job so it's difficult for anyone else to judge that fairly. She wasn't telling him to never speak about it, she just said she was uncomfortable being forced to be there when that conversation was taking place and to talk about it with his friends or others who he knows wants to partake in it, I don't think that's entirely unreasonable?

She's always (and was always) chatting with Lily, Nathan, Daze, Dean, Izaaz and even Khaled lately too, but considering she's got the most threads about her on here then she must be pretty interesting for you to keep discussing

She comes across as though she doesn't hide/hold back her thoughts and feelings and always says exactly what she thinks. It's normal human behaviour rather than "wanting to shut people down"

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So why doesn't she have that conversation with Lily ? as she is also gross and annoying,maybe she doesn't like men.

The worst Lily has done is pick her nose It's not even comparable. Ali gets on well with Nathan, Dean & Izaaz so saying she has an issue with men is a stretch just because she's had disagreements with a couple of them

[GlitterUK]

I think given what has happened to Ali personally she should be more aware of how she comes acts herself to others - she is bullying Khaled. Not seen the highlights or what they show but the parts I have seen she should be pulled up for bullying. Khaled has handled himself amazingly. He has remained calm and compassionate to her feelings and is always willing to give her another try. He is someone who just wants her to like him but she doesn't.

Looks like she could be self employed to me looking at her on the below site. States sessions from Ł100? be not taking referrals at present due to being on bb etc.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

I think given what has happened to Ali personally she should be more aware of how she comes acts herself to others - she is bullying Khaled. Not seen the highlights or what they show but the parts I have seen she should be pulled up for bullying. Khaled has handled himself amazingly. He has remained calm and compassionate to her feelings and is always willing to give her another try. He is someone who just wants her to like him but she doesn't.

Looks like she could be self employed to me looking at her on the below site. States sessions from Ł100? be not taking referrals at present due to being on bb etc.

Thing is just because someone is a psychologist doesn't mean they're good people or actually suited to that profession either. They're just human beings like everyone else

[Swan]

She's a textbook modern day liberal.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by vesavius

First, really bored of her constantly attempting to control the speech of others.

Secondly, I hated when she used her job as a shield and pretended to not be 'sensitive'.

She clearly, in her own words, admits to Marcello that she was offended by his conversation. It wasn't about her job, it WAS about her being offended. why even lie like that? More manipulation.

This is the 'blunt honesty' some love her for? Nah.

Marcello was not 'telling her off', he was attempting to express to her that she had handled the situation badly but, as ever, queen ****ing Ali is never wrong and always perfect. In her head at least.

"I don't think that this conversation is helpful because I don't think that you are going to agree with me"... there we have it, Ali in a nutshell. It's only every 'helpful' if you bend the knee to her.

perfectly put

And just as I predicted, Marcello is getting the brunt of it . Despite the fact Rosie & Dean were also involved in the chitter chat. Notice how Dean & Rosie nod and go along with Ali all the time .

Like Marcello said,he wasn't even aiming the conversation at Ali ,but once again block of ice takes it upon herself to be offended and to take everything so personal. No idea why she keeps bringing up her profession...if she's that worried & uncomfortable about what her job/ work colleagues think ... maybe she's on the wrong TV show.

It's also not fair of her to put that guilt on other housemates, she cannot police other people's conversations. And Marcello was right...it was an ' adult conversation ' .

Ali is condescending, stuck ,rude & extremely, controlling
& patronising & miserable . Any time anyone tries to clear the air with her ,or to explain themselves ... it's like banging their head against a brick wall.

And my goodness didn't she love smashing Marcello's glass portrait, like she had achieved something big .. spiteful vindictive woman .

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Maru

I can't wait til she's voted out.

She's getting on my ***s, too.

[GlitterUK]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's probably why her and Lily are so close because she literally hero worships her and she can control her easily

Spot on, I think Lily also feeds back snippets to Ali.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

Because she loves the sound of her own voice,she tells people they're not letting her speak ...whilst she also rudely cuts them off ,when they're trying to defend themselves. She's a self righteous sour face ,with a superiority complex.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

Spot on, I think Lily also feeds back snippets to Ali.

Like her little puppet

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Like her little puppet

pretty sure Ali fancies her too

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

And my goodness didn't she love smashing Marcello's glass portrait, like she had achieved something big .. spiteful vindictive woman .

Did you get the impression that when she finally loses it she goes 100% ballistic?

It was a little eye opening.

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Did you get the impression that when she finally loses it she goes 100% ballistic?

It was a little eye opening.

I do wonder, and that's why she shuts down or walks away from conversations. Because she feels herself losing control so wants to take a step back. I would have more respect if she said that - "Can we talk later as I just need time to myself" - rather than shutting conversations down as she is.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Did you get the impression that when she finally loses it she goes 100% ballistic?

It was a little eye opening.

I was expecting her to explode,but it seems her automatic reaction is to just be cold & manipulative. Oh and when she really wants to make someone feel bad ,the moaning waterworks ( haven't actually seen tears ,but you know what I mean) come out .... like when she was threatening to leave the other week.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

I do wonder, and that's why she shuts down or walks away from conversations. Because she feels herself losing control so wants to take a step back. I would have more respect if she said that - "Can we talk later as I just need time to myself" - rather than shutting conversations down as she is.

Indeed

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I was expecting her to explode,but it seems her automatic reaction is to just be cold & manipulative. Oh and when she really wants to make someone feel bad ,the moaning waterworks ( haven't actually seen tears ,but you know what I mean) come out .... like when she was threatening to leave the other week.

Everyone has a limit, I just wonder if we have yet seen hers.

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Everyone has a limit, I just wonder if we have yet seen hers.

I think we saw Ali's when she threatened to walk.

Edit: Mind you, she said to Dean on the LF yesterday she'd be ten times worse towards Khaled outside the house, so maybe not.