[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I was expecting her to explode,but it seems her automatic reaction is to just be cold & manipulative. Oh and when she really wants to make someone feel bad ,the moaning waterworks ( haven't actually seen tears ,but you know what I mean) come out .... like when she was threatening to leave the other week.

Everyone has a limit, I just wonder if we have yet seen hers.

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Everyone has a limit, I just wonder if we have yet seen hers.

I think we saw Ali's when she threatened to walk.

Edit: Mind you, she said to Dean on the LF yesterday she'd be ten times worse towards Khaled outside the house, so maybe not.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Pronouns?



Total red flag that she is a nutter

[jamiewordsley]

I love her she is a mess, I go from loving to disliking her everydaym but Id rather have her in there over half the bores in there.

[jem-jem]

Originally Posted by vesavius

First, really bored of her constantly attempting to control the speech of others.

Secondly, I hated when she used her job as a shield and pretended to not be 'sensitive'.

She clearly, in her own words, admits to Marcello that she was offended by his conversation. It wasn't about her job, it WAS about her being offended. why even lie like that? More manipulation.

This is the 'blunt honesty' some love her for? Nah.

Marcello was not 'telling her off', he was attempting to express to her that she had handled the situation badly but, as ever, queen ****ing Ali is never wrong and always perfect. In her head at least.

"I don't think that this conversation is helpful because I don't think that you are going to agree with me"... there we have it, Ali in a nutshell. It's only every 'helpful' if you bend the knee to her.

Absolutely agree, this girl can dish it out but can't take it. Why does she constantly feel the need to analyze everyone. Personally, I think she is jealous of the Baked Potato/Nathan romance. She's so arrogant.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by jem-jem

Absolutely agree, this girl can dish it out but can't take it. Why does she constantly feel the need to analyze everyone. Personally, I think she is jealous of the Baked Potato/Nathan romance. She's so arrogant.

I find the baked potato/ Nathan situation cringe . But I definitely think Ali is jealous ( obviously not in a romantic way) ...but she sees Nathan as her bestie friend being taken away,and suddenly she's got this possessive nature to her .

She tried to be protective to Hanah with the Khaled situation,but what she really wanted was to control the narrative as some SJW coming to Hannah's defence...so she could paint Khaled as the monster.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I find the baked potato/ Nathan situation cringe . But I definitely think Ali is jealous ( obviously not in a romantic way) ...but she sees Nathan as her bestie friend being taken away,and suddenly she's got this possessive nature to her .

She tried to be protective to Hanah with the Khaled situation,but what she really wanted was to control the narrative as some SJW coming to Hannah's defence...so she could paint Khaled as the monster.

I'm immensely proud of Hanah (as a literal nobody, obviously ) for not giving into that... I like to watch Hanah because she's a very good indicator of where the wind is blowing since she's very much her own influencer

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Maru

I'm immensely proud of Hanah (as a literal nobody, obviously ) for not giving into that... I like to watch Hanah because she's a very good indicator of where the wind is blowing since she's very much her own influencer

I noticed Hanah & Sarah seem to float more towards to boys anyway, I'm glad they don't just follow the crowd.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Our therapist needs a therapist!!

[Mrluvaluva]

She would make a good politician the way she dodges questions.

[jones89]

Oh it’s “point scoring” now.. i can’t with this woman

[Garfie]

Having seen the different articles that members have posted, I’m confused about Ali, her actual diagnosis and her actual profession, as the information seems to differ somewhat. From what I’ve read, rather than being Autistic, she has Autistic traits, and like in the general population, those traits can be positive or negative. For me, although I might understand the reason behind her behaviour, it doesn’t excuse her when she does something wrong. Just like everyone else, people with Autistic traits will make mistakes; the important thing is for them to step back, reassess if necessary, and learn from those mistakes. Those on the Spectrum might well need a trusted external individual to guide them in this.

Having said all that, I personally feel that Ali has made an unfair analysis of Khaled, on which she has fixated, and now everything he does or says is interpreted by her, based on her original judgement, Fixed thinking is often an Autistic trait, which, in this case, is serving her badly and leading her to treat Khaled in a very judgemental, harsh and unjust manner. He can’t win.

Appropriate social skills can also be a struggle for those on the Spectrum, and they can present badly in social settings. They will often lack the niceties of social interactions, because they just don’t always understand them. An Autistic trait in a social setting, is to share their thoughts openly, bluntly and directly, as to them that it honesty. However, they won’t always recognise that to others those comments might be hurtful and tactless. They also might well fail to recognise the impact their words could have on the person on the receiving end or feel they aren't doing anything wrong.

Do I understand why Ali is behaving as she is? Yes.
Do I agree with or like her behaviour towards either Khaled or Marcello? No.

It’s a shame that someone neutral and outside of the situation isn’t there to help her reflect on her behaviour and to reassess the way she is expressing herself. To me, she needs to be rethinking her harsh judgements, recognising that there are alternative reasons for Khaled’s actions, and to be reminded how to tackle these conversations in a more open-minded, tactful and considerate way.

There is definitely an element of control Ali is trying to have over people’s behaviours and perceptions, and over the ‘rules’ in the house. Like many on the spectrum, Ali will feel the need to control situations, because she can operate more comfortably in environments she feels she has some control over. Again, is that right, or fair on others? No. Does it make her a bad person? No. Will it, however, come across to others badly and make her quite difficult to live with? Yes.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Having seen the different articles that members have posted, I’m confused about Ali, her actual diagnosis and her actual profession, as the information seems to differ somewhat. From what I’ve read, rather than being Autistic, she has Autistic traits, and like in the general population, those traits can be positive or negative. For me, although I might understand the reason behind her behaviour, it doesn’t excuse her when she does something wrong. Just like everyone else, people with Autistic traits will make mistakes; the important thing is for them to step back, reassess if necessary, and learn from those mistakes. Those on the Spectrum might well need a trusted external individual to guide them in this.

Having said all that, I personally feel that Ali has made an unfair analysis of Khaled, on which she has fixated, and now everything he does or says is interpreted by her, based on her original judgement, Fixed thinking is often an Autistic trait, which, in this case, is serving her badly and leading her to treat Khaled in a very judgemental, harsh and unjust manner. He can’t win.

Appropriate social skills can also be a struggle for those on the Spectrum, and they can present badly in social settings. They will often lack the niceties of social interactions, because they just don’t always understand them. An Autistic trait in a social setting, is to share their thoughts openly, bluntly and directly, as to them that it honesty. However, they won’t always recognise that to others those comments might be hurtful and tactless. They also might well fail to recognise the impact their words could have on the person on the receiving end or feel they aren't doing anything wrong.

Do I understand why Ali is behaving as she is? Yes.
Do I agree with or like her behaviour towards either Khaled or Marcello? No.

It’s a shame that someone neutral and outside of the situation isn’t there to help her reflect on her behaviour and to reassess the way she is expressing herself. To me, she needs to be rethinking her harsh judgements, recognising that there are alternative reasons for Khaled’s actions, and to be reminded how to tackle these conversations in a more open-minded, tactful and considerate way.

There is definitely an element of control Ali is trying to have over people’s behaviours and perceptions, and over the ‘rules’ in the house. Like many on the spectrum, Ali will feel the need to control situations, because she can operate more comfortably in environments she feels she has some control over. Again, is that right, or fair on others? No. Does it make her a bad person? No. Will it, however, come across to others badly and make her quite difficult to live with? Yes.

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[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Hallelujah


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I know this discussion has been challenging tonight, Zizu. I’m hoping your comment here suggests that my rather long assessment of Ali and her condition has helped a little. I’ve tried to be as honest as possible here. Sending love to you, dear Zizu.

[GlitterUK]

She is one of them people you cannot win with. You are doomed whether you do or don't with her. Once she has made her mind up about you that is it.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

She is one of them people you cannot win with. You are doomed whether you do or don't with her. Once she has made her mind up about you that is it.

Ali is gaslighting Khaled , and she is pleased with herself that she's put Marchy & Khaled up . She's weirdly going against Dean behind his back , she's completely nuts !.