[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

Originally posted by Antparker

Men dont like being tarred with the same brush, just because some scumbag cheated on her

i know men dont like that, but just imagine:

you have a girlfriend who cheats on you, and because of that you say 'i hate all women', would you like people to hate you for saying that? because i have actually heard people say that after they have been cheated on

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar

Im male too and dont find it offensive. And i was just lookin over the Launch, what Nicky said was "I Cannot stand men at the moment" which means shes not in a place in her life where she wants men.

but some people find it offensive, plus she has since said she hates all men

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

Right. It happened, but it's impossible to remember when.

It isn't difficult to find clips of nicky being sexist

[Matt]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.

i know men dont like that, but just imagine:

you have a girlfriend who cheats on you, and because of that you say 'i hate all women', would you like people to hate you for saying that? because i have actually heard people say that after they have been cheated on

Why would anyone say that they hate all women just because one woman cheated on them? Anyone that does that deserves to be hated...

[Billy]

Originally posted by Antparker

but some people find it offensive, plus she has since said she hates all men

When? Did she just suddenly come out with this one day whilst being bored?

[Matt]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar

When? Did she just suddenly come out with this one day whilst being bored?

She's said she's hated men since Day 1!

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar

When? Did she just suddenly come out with this one day whilst being bored?

Like I said its immpossible to rerember what day, I mean I dont even know what day the sleeping task was never mind the day Nicky said that

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Antparker
its like asking when did Charley say "bloody barstools (ba**ards)

Hardly. I don't actually have a clue what your example is supposedly about. Anyone could post pretty much anything, and claim it happened.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Matt

She's said she's hated men since Day 1!

Erm, she said seh doesnt like men at this moment in her life.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

Hardly. I don't actually have a clue what your example is supposedly about. Anyone could post pretty much anything, and claim it happened.

Ok then I'll give you a clearer example, with out checking anywhere, what day did Billi and Charley argue about nominations

[Wasted]

Originally posted by Abraxas

You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

Which is exactly what I did. I only focused on the facts, what was actually said, and what wasn't said.

They didn't say they were inviting Jonathan in because he was leaving soon and because of his tragic news earlier. So you can only assume or guess that was why Gerry was left out.

They did say that they wanted all the men there. They did have all the men in there, except for Gerry, who happens to be gay. So there is reason to assume from looking at the facts, as you said to do, that Gerry was excluded, possibly because of homophobia. Of course the fact that they didn't actually say they were leaving Gerry out because he was gay has to be considered, which is why I am suspicious but don't know for sure it was homophobic exclusion.

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday. [/quote]

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

Hardly. I don't actually have a clue what your example is supposedly about. Anyone could post pretty much anything, and claim it happened.

I found a clip where she is particularly sexist. Perhaps you should search if you want still need proof.

[Matt]

Originally posted by Abraxas

I found a clip where she is particularly sexist. Perhaps you should search if you want still need proof.

Link?

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
You are reading too much into this. Sometimes it's best to focus on the facts and what has actually been said rather than to speculate about what you think the men where thinking.

If we go on what nicky has said, I think many would find her more offensive. I suppose we will see come friday.

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic! [/quote]

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky?

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by Antparker
Ok then I'll give you a clearer example, with out checking anywhere, what day did Billi and Charley argue about nominations

What's the relevance? A prolonged argument which featured heavily on the entire series, compared to a supposed one-liner that may or may not be lurking in a dusty corner somewhere?

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by Matt

Link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b7ISskMiKE

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

What's the relevance? A prolonged argument which featured heavily on the entire series, compared to a supposed one-liner that may or may not be lurking in a dusty corner somewhere?

She said it because I can rerember feeling insulted and angry

[Billy]

Originally posted by Abraxas

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky? [/quote]

for the second time, someone mentioned homophobia is a form of discrimination, so Laura was wondering why the boys werent bein hated when Nicky is...

[.x.x.laura.x.x.]

[/quote]Why would anyone say that they hate all women just because one woman cheated on them? Anyone that does that deserves to be hated... [/quote]

matt, your obviously extremely narrow minded, i know for a fact that if i had been cheated on by a string of men, then i would go around saying that i hated men

[Abraxas]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky?

for the second time, someone mentioned homophobia is a form of discrimination, so Laura was wondering why the boys werent bein hated when Nicky is... [/quote]

But it wasn't homophobic, they just forgot (for the second time).

[Matt]

Originally posted by .x.x.laura.x.x.
Why would anyone say that they hate all women just because one woman cheated on them? Anyone that does that deserves to be hated...

matt, your obviously extremely narrow minded, i know for a fact that if i had been cheated on by a string of men, then i would go around saying that i hated men [/quote]

Different contexts. I said that if ONE woman cheated on a man, and that man then came to the conclusion that he hated women, then he deserved to be vilified, not by a STRING of women.

*Checks out link*

[Billy]

In that clip, she said she is NOT missing male company, and that it would be nice to have eye candy and a bit of a flirt. And then she said, all they will do is eat more and complain theres no beer, seriously how did you find that offensive??

[Wasted]

Originally posted by Abraxas

i have an great memory and a sky+ box to back this up:

-all the men (except for jonothan and gerry) were called to diary room, and given beer

-they all then said 'lets get all the men' (exact words!)

-liam then left the diary room to collect a bottle opener and 'the men'

-liam went to jonothan who was sat on the couch and told him to go to the diary room (gerry was sat next to jonothan, but liam didnt say anything to jonothan)

-all the men (except the only gay man) then gathered together in the diary room, they said they were going to get all the man, but then left the gay man out, now how is that not homophobic???

p.s dont reply saying that liam might not have seen gerry, because he sat on the sofas near jonothan, liam didnt want gerry in the diary room= homophobic!

I don't think anyone here understands what you mean with the whole homophobic argument, since it isn't true. All the men get on with gerry. Also you are completely off topic, I thought this was about nicky? [/quote]

And Nicky gets on with the men as well, and is attracted to men. You said that this doesn't mean she isn't sexist. So why are you now saying just because they get on with Gerry, that it means they're not homophobic?

[Abraxas]

Hating or discriminating all members of one group because of the actions of a few in that group is never right in my opinion and doesn't make you look like a very nice person.