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02-06-2020, 03:27 AM | #1226 | |||
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02-06-2020, 03:34 AM | #1233 | |||
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02-06-2020, 06:29 AM | #1234 | |||
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Parliament opens today.
Great Debates today on GMBHD itv Far better than BBC1 Last edited by arista; 02-06-2020 at 07:49 AM. |
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02-06-2020, 07:54 AM | #1235 | |||
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02-06-2020, 07:58 AM | #1236 | |||
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02-06-2020, 08:39 AM | #1237 | ||
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**** me, talk about manipulating figures. One metre is enough because it "cuts the risk by 80%" vs zero social distancing, representing a 2.6% risk against a 1.3% risk with two metre distancing.
Or if you're not trying to bamboozle the innumerate GB public; Cutting the social distancing from 2m to 1m doubles infection risk in the community. Now, is that an acceptable increase? I don't know enough about the overall rates to say either way - you'd need to know what proportion of infection is occurring in the community. If cutting social distancing from 2m to 1m still results in an overall drop in infection rates (albeit a slower drop) then it might be a fair trade off. But they should at least be honest with the figures, and not play creative stats to make it look like it doesn't make much difference. |
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02-06-2020, 09:38 AM | #1238 | |||
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The*Office for National Statistics*said there have been 286,759 deaths to date in*England*and*Wales*this year - 51,466 more than the five-year average.
Of the deaths registered by 22 May, 43,837 mentioned Covid-19 on the death certificate, which was 15.3% of all deaths. One faint silver lining was that the weekly number of deaths involving Covid-19 in*England*and*Wales*fell to a seven-week low in the week to 22 May: 2,589 death certificates mentioned Covid-19 in the week, down from 3,810 in the previous seven days. Nick Stripe, the ONS’s head of health analysis, has posted an interesting thread explaining the*figures. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ps-westminster
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02-06-2020, 10:08 AM | #1239 | |||
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Wait, people actually needed it pointed out that social distancing means they can't **** strangers?
No wonder the population "density" is so high. |
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02-06-2020, 10:12 AM | #1240 | |||
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If you are in an office all day with a 2 metre gap, you are at greater risk than you would be in the open air. I think I saw somewhere that 1 metres difference it would be about 3 minutes before you might breath in some covid from someone infected ... 2 meters it might be an hour .... what about 3 or 4 hours down the pub at a metre .... the whole bar is going to get infected before the night is out. I don't want to see bars shutdown, but they need to be realistic about peoples health |
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02-06-2020, 10:29 AM | #1241 | |||
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02-06-2020, 10:30 AM | #1242 | |||
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02-06-2020, 10:46 AM | #1244 | |||
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I only skimmed the letter but it seems like the testing figures are inflated because they include tests which were sent out whether or not they have results from them all, and also people tested more than once are included in the total figures.
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02-06-2020, 10:55 AM | #1245 | |||
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the underlying issue is that testing on its own means nothing unless it has some metrics to base the figures against ... what defines success or failure, it's not some arbitrary finger in the air number
On the test and track, we need again to define milestones and metrics, otherwise how do we know its effective or useful |
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02-06-2020, 10:59 AM | #1246 | |||
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At least official people are starting to call them out on their bull though
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02-06-2020, 11:05 AM | #1247 | |||
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But yeah it needs calling out, I'm sick of the government acting like their half efforts are saving the world. |
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02-06-2020, 11:10 AM | #1248 | ||
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IMO the test & trace "service" exists to increase public confidence, and very little else. You can't test and trace 5000+ active cases. The entire concept is insane.
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02-06-2020, 11:12 AM | #1249 | |||
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At the moment I can't even track and trace, as my phone's not a smart phone
My old smart phone broke, so I used a £10 one as a placeholder, but the new one takes a different type of SIM so I only use the smartphone for apps at home... |
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02-06-2020, 11:24 AM | #1250 | |||
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