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When you consider that young people don't (particularly) need vaxxed for this to be effective in bringing severe illness right down to next to nothing... At 25m we are probably past "half way".

(Thinking for this - 66m people in the UK, at least 16m are under age 20, so 25m is half of the remaining 50m people)
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When you consider that young people don't (particularly) need vaxxed for this to be effective in bringing severe illness right down to next to nothing... At 25m we are probably past "half way".

(Thinking for this - 66m people in the UK, at least 16m are under age 20, so 25m is half of the remaining 50m people)
there is still going to be the occasional young person who gets seriously ill and of course those vulnerable people unwilling or unable to be vaccinated, but the pressure should be right down now, which is great news considering it all really started 1 year ago
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COVID-19: UK to face 'significant reduction' in
vaccine supplies from 29 March


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...march-12248909


[Disruption could last for four weeks, and
the government's vaccines taskforce
has told the health service that this
is linked to "reductions in national inbound vaccines supply".


Sky's health correspondent, Ashish Joshi,
has been told that the shortage has
nothing to do with ongoing
supply tensions with the EU - instead,
it is down to a "global supply issue" with AstraZeneca.]
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COVID-19: UK to face 'significant reduction' in
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[Disruption could last for four weeks, and
the government's vaccines taskforce
has told the health service that this
is linked to "reductions in national inbound vaccines supply".


Sky's health correspondent, Ashish Joshi,
has been told that the shortage has
nothing to do with ongoing
supply tensions with the EU - instead,
it is down to a "global supply issue" with AstraZeneca.]
kinda coincides with the Easter Break I guess, maybe the EU can hand over the AZ they wont use?
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kinda coincides with the Easter Break I guess, maybe the EU can hand over the AZ they wont use?

AZ gave a statement
NewsnightHD BBC2
they have NO Shortage in Supply?
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AZ gave a statement
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they have NO Shortage in Supply?
I think they are pausing to catch up on second jabs tbf, many people who got them in January are due in early April, so that would tie in

45% of first jabs given but only 3% of second they need to start closing the gap
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When are these doses of Moderna supposed to start arriving? The US is catching us up on vaccines thanks to that jab
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When are these doses of Moderna supposed to start arriving? The US is catching us up on vaccines thanks to that jab
We should get it in April, I think.
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So what happens ( worst case scenario) if tens of thousands don’t get their second jab after the 12 week period ?


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If there is going to be an issue for people going longer than the twelve week gap then I presume they will give preference to the ones ‘needing’ their second jab - if indeed there are shortages

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So what happens ( worst case scenario) if tens of thousands don’t get their second jab after the 12 week period ?


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JVT said they were specifically asking GPs not to send letters to under 50s, so they will loop back make sure they have got everyone who wants a vaccine and and prioritise second jabs
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[However, there is confusion over the source of the delay
with a Government source blaming a range of 'production issues'.
The source revealed that this included the need to
re-test a large batch of the vaccine, although they
did not specify from which manufacturer.
They also suggested there was an issue with
AstraZeneca's production overseas,

resulting in fewer jabs being delivered
in April than initially planned.
This was backed up by another government source
that claimed the shortages were related
to the late delivery of five million doses
of the AstraZeneca jab being manufactured in India.

The Serum Institute was due to send
10 million doses to the UK - yet only half have arrived.
Another senior government figure has suggested
AstraZeneca is 'late' with doses. ]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-batches.html

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...can you imagine after all of the amazing posts TS has made on so many varied topics ...his last post ever was about Piers Morgan being an ass...the cruelty of it all...
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The Health Secretary is Live
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Talking about supply.

BOTH news channels
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Talking about supply.

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He said it won't affect the lockdown easing timetable, as they are still ahead of schedule anyway. I feel like this is just a big panic by the media as always when it comes to bad COVID news.
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He said it won't affect the lockdown easing timetable, as they are still ahead of schedule anyway. I feel like this is just a big panic by the media as always when it comes to bad COVID news.
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Interesting article

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56375307?xtor=ES-211-[42897_PANUK_DIV_11_NCA_Vaccinesafety_RET_ABC]-20210318-[bbcnews_myvaccinesideeffectsandwhattheymean_newsco ronavirus]
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I can't tell if I have side effects or not. I have a bit of a sore arm today and had a weird night's sleep (I kept waking up and I was sweaty - but no temp) and I'm tired today BUT ... I stupidly only got about 4 hours sleep the night before last, and about 6 last night, so there's every chance I'm just legitimately tired .
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I can't tell if I have side effects or not. I have a bit of a sore arm today and had a weird night's sleep (I kept waking up and I was sweaty - but no temp) and I'm tired today BUT ... I stupidly only got about 4 hours sleep the night before last, and about 6 last night, so there's every chance I'm just legitimately tired .
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I can't tell if I have side effects or not. I have a bit of a sore arm today and had a weird night's sleep (I kept waking up and I was sweaty - but no temp) and I'm tired today BUT ... I stupidly only got about 4 hours sleep the night before last, and about 6 last night, so there's every chance I'm just legitimately tired .
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India has Suspended Exports of the Vaccine to the UK
They need it for their own nation.


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Can't blame them really, we would do the same in the same situation..

I do think now, the focus needs to shift from 'get everyone done!!' to...get high risk people sorted with their second dose. Other are much lower priority, or should be.
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A review by the European Union's medicines regulator has concluded the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine is "safe and effective".

The European Medicines Agency (EMA) said it would continue to study possible links between rare blood clots and the vaccine.

Its findings came after 13 EU states paused rollouts of the jab.

The World Health Organization (WHO) on Thursday called on countries to continue using the vaccine.

Much of Europe is struggling to contain a surge in coronavirus cases.

Decisions to suspend use of the vaccine sparked concerns over the pace of the region's vaccination drive, which had already been affected by supply shortages.

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This blood clot thing seems dodgy. Because, if there was actually a link, given how many UK people have had the vaccine now, it would be very apparent surely..
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