[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Slim Put the DATE
of that
you lazy poster

Because it just says 2023

Why is it that BOTS knew exactly what that was about, and you go on about dates like we're talking about middle eastern cuisine?

Don't get angry with me because you barely know what day it is

[bots]

his standard excuse is that at the time it was possible, but now it's not

[bots]

it says May 2nd Arista

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it says May 2nd Arista

Yes yesterday Date

Starmer Talking there
years ago


Lazy Slim


Not putting the date

[arista]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i4NVEbamEg

Starmer as Brexit Secretary
or was he leader

[arista]

Any old videos of Starmer
needs dates

That all we need

[arista]

This was Early today

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

This was Early today

ew i have not seen that little freak in the tv for ages

cant believe he is still getting gigs?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

ew i have not seen that little freak in the tv for ages

Jonathan Ashworth ?


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[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

ew i have not seen that little freak in the tv for ages

cant believe he is still getting gigs?

Yes he is on GMBHD itv
in the early morning, again
Around 6:30AM

As the Normal left Winger Kevin
is on holiday

[Oliver_W]

Not to go all "tin foil hat" but I swear Own Goal is hired to make the left look ridiculous and untenable. Even if you agree with some of what he says, he makes it sound unreasonable.

I can't see him being hired for these things because people think he has something to contribute. The networks just want to make "the other side" look dumb.

[The Slim Reaper]

[arista]

[The Slim Reaper]

[The Slim Reaper]

Starmer getting rinsed.

[arista]

Yes Slim
SNP anger at weak Starmer

Today in PMQ's

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Slim
SNP anger at weak Starmer

Today in PMQ's

Not sure its weakness.

I'm pretty stunned on the tuition fees turnaround.

I'm not like Slim YET, however I'm seeing more and more what Slim is saying.
Sorry Slim for some reason this wouldn't double quote.

I've now heard from 4 leading figures in Labour, including Thornberry today on Politics live.
The message that if Labour wins they are going to inherit a really big mess.

I'm almost on the road of thinking Starmer maybe doesnt relish winning the next election.
So hoping to drastically cut the Cons majority to a very small one or take it to a hung parliament even.

I am scratching my head at this point.
I'm not the only one either.

I'm NOT happy at the tuition fees change.
Not at all
It was a very important issue for me in 2010.
I'll see what he comes up with instead of it but for me it's a really bad and wrong move he's done on them at this moment in time.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Not sure its weakness.

I'm pretty stunned on the tuition fees turnaround.

I'm not like Slim YET, however I'm seeing more and more what Slim is saying.
Sorry Slim fit some reason this wouldn't double quote.

I've now heard from 4 leading figures in Labour, including Thornberry today on Politics live.
The message that if Labour wins they are going to inherit a really big mess.

I'm almost on the road of thinking Starmer maybe doesntvrelush winning the next election.
So hoping to drastically cut the Cons majority to a very small one or take it to a hung parliament even.

I am scratching my head at this point.
I'm not the only one either.

I'm NOT happy at the tuition fees change.
Not at all
It was a very important issue for me in 2010.
I'll see what he comes up with instead of it but for me it's a really bad and wrong move he's done on them at this moment in time.

Tories inherited a mess in 2010 - not because of labour, but because of the banking crash in 08. They chose the no spend, cut everything austerity route that Starmer looks set to continue.

If the country is a mess, it needs investment, not more austerity, and that's the main issue. Starmer is pretty much guaranteed to win, but his lack of vision will see him kicked out at the first opportunity, which will lead to another 15 years out of power to the tories, resulting in another lost generation, forcing the country evermore righrwards -which always happens in times of poverty.

He had such a massive lead that he didn't need to take advice from Blairites, he needed an ambitious, progressive programme. He's as bad as Johnson, just in a different way. Johnson is about himself, Starmer is about power for powers sake.

I know I'm preaching to the choir a bit, Joey, as I know you don't really disagree, but Starmer is a duplicitous shambles of a man.

He chose to fight the left rather than the tories. Crazy.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Tories inherited a mess in 2010 - not because of labour, but because of the banking crash in 08. They chose the no spend, cut everything austerity route that Starmer looks set to continue.

If the country is a mess, it needs investment, not more austerity, and that's the main issue. Starmer is pretty much guaranteed to win, but his lack of vision will see him kicked out at the first opportunity, which will lead to another 15 years out of power to the tories, resulting in another lost generation, forcing the country evermore righrwards -which always happens in times of poverty.

He had such a massive lead that he didn't need to take advice from Blairites, he needed an ambitious, progressive programme. He's as bad as Johnson, just in a different way. Johnson is about himself, Starmer is about power for powers sake.

I know I'm preaching to the choir a bit, Joey, as I know you don't really disagree, but Starmer is a duplicitous shambles of a man.

He chose to fight the left rather than the tories. Crazy.

A lot of that is correct Slim.
I am extremely dissatisfied with the tuition fees change.
My fury duly submitted to the Labour hierarchy too.

Not that my fury will make any difference, not likely others fury in the Party either.
He's dismayed younger people with his tuition fee change.

It will now be interesting to see the local election results.
John Curtice rightly indicated that for the current polling on Labours lead to be likely accurate of around 15%
Then since these results are more in some stronger Con areas from when last fought.
Labour would need to be near, on or above a 10% lead over the Cons in these local elections.

I never believe polling, I've never thought there were 20%+ gaps.
Actual votes tell a more real story.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

A lot of that is correct Slim.
I am extremely dissatisfied with the tuition fees change.
My fury duly submitted to the Labour hierarchy too.

Not that my fury will make any difference, not likely others fury in the Party either.
He's dismayed younger people with his tuition fee change.

It will now be interesting to see the local election results.
John Curtice rightly indicated that for the current polling on Labours lead to be likely accurate of around 15%
Then since these results are more in some stronger Con areas from when last fought.
Labour would need to be near, on or above a 10% lead over the Cons in these local elections.

I never believe polling, I've never thought there were 20%+ gaps.
Actual votes tell a more real story.

Tory fatigue is real though, and that's ultimately what will decide the next election because people are just tired of them. It will be classed as a great victory for Starmer, which will only bolster his opinion that acting like a tory is the right way to hold on - it never will be.

[bots]

his only interest is in becoming PM and he will do anything to achieve that, but that makes him exactly the same as at least 90% of current mp's. None that i can see have any genuine moral fibre

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

his only interest is in becoming PM and he will do anything to achieve that, but that makes him exactly the same as at least 90% of current mp's. None that i can see have any genuine moral fibre

Labour removed the whip from an MP who donates his pay rises to charity, and never took his 9k home allowance.

Honesty and principle need to be marginalised so there is no one around who can call them out.

Rayners silence is deafening.

[arista]

[I've now heard from 4 leading figures in Labour,
including Thornberry today on Politics live.
The message that if Labour wins they are
going to inherit a really big mess.]

Yes Joey they all say that

My problem is them saying Fully Costed
to every policy.

But some of Labours Numbers
do not add up.

[arista]

Tomorrow
Labour wants to use the Local Elections
as it's all about their gain?

But LibDems and Greens
Could gain some Labour councils

[arista]