[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I've played it on Gran Turismo once, and I hit every wall

Hahaha!! LOL! Its a very difficult track. ON F1 race games, you get a chance to practice before qualifying and races, so you can practice until you get all the turns and braking right. But then the race with all the other cars, is super hard, you have to concentrate like crazy!
I love it though.

[pinkmichk]

ahhh thats what i played it on couldnt remember name

[Iceman]

most teams now backing schumacher because race stewards put the green light on. confusion with this rule. i agree it was a sneaky move but without clarification it was worth the shot. hopefully during next week it'll be sorted one way or another

[Iceman]

bitch robbed my thread :P

love the turkish track! then we're back in Canada aren't we?

[Wildcat!]

Schumacher did do what he was su[pposed to do! So I think its the stewards fault, because its in the rule, he shuldnt have given the drivers a green flag.
So imo, he should get to keep his 7th place, and not be relegated to 12th!

[Iceman]

^^we agree for once.

i think they should let it stand as it did today and clearly outline the rule for thr future!

[pinkmichk]

i agree also there should be no issue light was green which we all know means go racing again i hope the penalty is overturned cos it isnt justified

[Iceman]

i wont complain if not i just wont watch F1 again.....gp2 race today was much more exciting, they have brill cars and drivers....

[Iceman]

Over a decade after his retirement from Formula One racing, Damon Hill has walked straight back into controversy by handing his former nemesis, Michael Schumacher, a ridiculous penalty in the wake of an otherwise forgettable Monaco Grand Prix.

Hill, the man who ended his career by pathetically retiring his fully functioning car because he was “so far down the field, there was little point in me carrying on” in his farewell race. Hill, the man who was denied his first world championship by the win-at-all-costs ruthlessness of Schumacher. Hill, the steward?

To be fair, Hill was only a quarter of the panel that decided if a breach had occurred and the penalty to be applied, but we have seen that the former drivers have added a moderating influence to the normally draconian stewards panel.

Reprimands have been the penalty of choice so far this year, and while it can be argued that these penalties have, at times, been far too lenient, this decision seems like a return the insane days of 2008, where every transgression was a metaphorical hanging offence.

So, what’s different?

Overtaking under safety car conditions is dangerous and unforgivable, but so is driving side by side down pit lane and that only received a slap on the wrist for the drivers involved. That was a clear breach of the rules, this one isn't quite so clear.

There are many examinations of the rules and their implications in this case, but it seems quite simple. The stewards point to the fact that section 40.13 applies and that “If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pit lane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking.”

In reality, however, section 40.11 applies “When the clerk of the course decides it is safe to call in the safety car the message "SAFETY CAR IN THIS LAP" will be displayed on the timing monitors and the car's orange lights will be extinguished.” This is exactly what happened in Monaco.

From this point on, the following applies “As the safety car is approaching the pit entry the yellow flags and SC boards will be withdrawn and replaced by waved green flags with green lights at the Line. These will be displayed until the last car crosses the Line.” The cars were racing; the race did not end under safety car conditions.

If we are to believe Ferrari’s Stefano Domenicali, the Ferrari drivers were told that the race was finishing under safety car conditions and they couldn’t be overtaken. Why then, did Fernando Alonso accelerate so hard that he lost control of his car? Surely, if he was cruising to the flag, there was no need for such acceleration.

Everything at the track pointed to the race having restarted. The SC boards were in, green flags were being waved and all of the drivers were looking for that final opportunity to pass. Schumacher alone was successful.

If this penalty is not overturned, there will be a huge outcry from fans of the sport the world over and yet another example for the conspiracy theorists to argue that FIA stands for Ferrari International Assistance.

If nothing else, it’s added an element of drama to a race that was yet another formation procession, interrupted occasionally by a Williams throwing itself at a wall or moment of madness from Jarno Trulli.

I suppose we should be thankful that we have something to talk about.


when i was a ferrari fan i would have point blank denied that......just saying.....

[Iceman]

doing something intresting for this race and for all the next ones...keep an eye out

[pinkmichk]

talk on twitter that rubens crash was caused by a different loose drain cover to the supposed 1 that brought out safety car (a little before it on the road)
also chandhok took rubens wheel half a lap round track

[Iceman]

kind of pissed off merc didnt appeal, reckon they had a strong chance.....

ooohhh would make sense about the drain just looked like a freak crash....

[pinkmichk]

yep we are
i wont be watching race as we're off drag racing on race day so will have to watch the highlights in evening

[pinkmichk]

looking forward to practice tomorrow hoping its mclarens weekend

[Iceman]

schumacher third, lewis first.....i do believe i predicted that.

[Iceman]

http://www.openzine.com/aspx/Publish...2&IssueID=9969

[Iceman]

qualifying on now...

[Iceman]

Ferrari have there 800th race tomorrow.....also they have won 1/4 of all there races......big congrats to my old favourite team.

[Iceman]

great qualifying session....

1. Webber
2. Hamilton
3. Vettel
4. Button
5. Schumacher
6. Rosberg

dont know the rest....

schumi had a run off on last lap, he was going good aswell....watch out for him overtaling at first corner tomorrow.....alsonso didnt make Q3.....

[Iceman]

shout out from Stirling Moss:

Eoin_l_

@StirlingMossCom do what @MikeGascoyne and @VirginRacing do, get on twitter and post pics and tell US - the fans, whats going on 12 minutes ago via web in reply to StirlingMossCom Retweeted by StirlingMossCom and 2 others

[Iceman]

reply from stirling moss:

StirlingMossCom

@Eoin_l_ I @MyLotusRacing and the drivers will be at Snet on 20th June with most ever Lotus F1 cars made running on track 6 minutes ago via web in reply to Eoin_l_

[James]

Webber out in front.

[James]

LH reeling in Webber now.

[James]

Red Bulls run into each other.

[Scarlett.]

Hammy