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Ghostinthehouse · 24-01-2010, 12:56 AM

Stephen was funny, but his views on God are genuine and his religious views should have been respected. It says a lot about certain people that they don't respect the religious views of others. That kind of attitude and lack of tolerance is what breeds extremism and hatred.

Laugh all you want but it's that kind of laughing and intolerance that causes terrorism against intolerant societies.

James · 24-01-2010, 01:13 AM

People need to stop making assumptions about the viewers - and the posters on here - based on the housemates they do or don't support.

Stu · 24-01-2010, 01:49 AM

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People need to stop making assumptions about the viewers - and the posters on here - based on the housemates they do or don't support.

I absoloutely agree.

Also we don't need to respect others religious beliefs. Not at all. Who says we do?

Ghostinthehouse · 24-01-2010, 01:51 AM

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also we don't need to respect others religious beliefs. Not at all. Who says we do?

rlmao.

Stu · 24-01-2010, 01:55 AM

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rlmao.

Okay then, give me a reason why I should respect others religious beliefs. I don't have to. There is no legal reason as to why I have to. I despise all organised religions and feel no reason to respect it. You want to oppose that?

Girlinstatic · 24-01-2010, 02:07 AM

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Okay then, give me a reason why I should respect others religious beliefs. I don't have to. There is no legal reason as to why I have to. I despise all organised religions and feel no reason to respect it. You want to oppose that?

Sure it's not in the law, but it is just the decent thing to do. No one is asking you to embrace it, but laughing at people because you disagree with something is just immature. I personally don't agree with preaching but Stephen obviously has reason to believe in what he does, and he obviously finds immense comfort in it, why should we poke fun of that!?

James · 24-01-2010, 01:38 AM

Posts deleted. Back on-topic?

Ghostinthehouse · 24-01-2010, 01:52 AM

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Posts deleted. Back on-topic?

The topic being the OP. Thanks James.

Girlinstatic · 24-01-2010, 01:56 AM

I think we should respect beliefs too. As long as no one is forcing anything in your face, what's the problem? Live and let live!

Ghostinthehouse · 24-01-2010, 01:58 AM

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I think we should respect beliefs too. As long as no one is forcing anything in your face, what's the problem? Live and let live!

Well said Girlinstatic. That's the point. Respect for the beliefs of others no matter what your faith is. Only someone with no respect for themselves wouldn't understand that.

CaudleHalbard · 24-01-2010, 02:00 AM

Stephen is not being laughed at for his beliefs but for his thrusting of them in other people's faces.

There is a BIG difference!

For what he has done he thoroughly deserves to be laughed at!

Stu · 24-01-2010, 02:05 AM

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Well said Girlinstatic. That's the point. Respect for the beliefs of others no matter what your faith is. Only someone with no respect for themselves wouldn't understand that.

Bullshit. The whole reason I despise organised religion is because I have respect for myself. Again, I ask you, on what grounds should we respect others religions? It's fully within my right to not respect what others believe. I don't expect them to respect what I believe.

Why should I respect The Bible, for instance, when it has no respect for some of the things that I believe in? What about that? Why should I respect a faith that has no respect for me?

Angus · 24-01-2010, 08:38 AM

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Well said Girlinstatic. That's the point. Respect for the beliefs of others no matter what your faith is. Only someone with no respect for themselves wouldn't understand that.

Stephen showed no respect for any one else's beliefs when he was pontificating 24/7 (and often twisting biblical interpetations to suit his current sermon) so please don't have the audacity to criticise people who got pissed off with it.

Ever heard the expression "Methinks he doth protest too much"? Religious zealots are usually desperate people who need other's ideas and ideology to fill the void of their own empty lives. I don't respect the views of the zealots and fanatics that perpetrate terrorism , hatred and racial division in the name of their god.

I like Stephen but reserve the right to laugh my socks off at him when he comes out with ridiculous interpretations and analogies from the bible. Such selective interpretations are the hallmark of the zealot and command no respect from others.

CaudleHalbard · 24-01-2010, 01:56 AM

Stephen "found God" only 8 years ago.

If ever anyone has "the zeal of the converted" it is Stephen. He is totally OTT about his new-found religion rather than just quietly getting on with it AND respecting the fact that not everyone wants his religion thrust in their faces.

That is why he is laughed at - and deservedly so.

Ghostinthehouse · 24-01-2010, 02:02 AM

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Stephen "found God" only 8 years ago.

If ever anyone has "the zeal of the converted" it is Stephen. He is totally OTT about his new-found religion rather than just quietly getting on with it AND respecting the fact that not everyone wants his religion thrust in their faces.

That is why he is laughed at - and deservedly so.

The point is not whether Stephen was right to preach or not. And he was funny, but he also doesn't take himself too seriously and that is part of what makes him a good guy.

The point is that certain people have reacted badly to Stephen's Christianity itself. It's as if they are scared of someone like Stephen having such a strong faith. Maybe it just makes them realise the fear they have of having no faith (or anything of their own) to believe in?

CaudleHalbard · 24-01-2010, 02:08 AM

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Steven found the American version of AA much much longer ago. If you examime the mantra it is very close to a religion in itself. I believe this is where he got into mindset which led him to be Born Again and quite a fundamentalist.

A very good point. He probably slipped seamlesly from AA to JC.

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The point is that certain people have reacted badly to Stephen's Christianity itself. It's as if they are scared of someone like Stephen having such a strong faith. Maybe it just makes them realise the fear they have of having no faith (or anything of their own) to believe in?

Many Christians have not reacted well to Stephen's behaviour. Evangelism of his type is felt by some to actually bring Christianity into disrepute.

Claymores · 24-01-2010, 02:02 AM

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Stephen "found God" only 8 years ago.

Steven found the American version of AA much much longer ago. If you examime the mantra it is very close to a religion in itself. I believe this is where he got into mindset which led him to be Born Again and quite a fundamentalist.

Ghostinthehouse · 24-01-2010, 02:06 AM

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Steven found the American version of AA much much longer ago. If you examime the mantra it is very close to a religion in itself. I believe this is where he got into mindset which led him to be Born Again and quite a fundamentalist.

This topic is not about what or why Stephen found his faith. It is about why certain people are so afraid of a person with strong faith that they have to deride it.

Even Stephen did funny things to make people laugh. That isn't the point.

Stephen should be admired for having such a strong faith. Especially in a world where many only have 'faith' in their next mobile phone or computer game.

Stu · 24-01-2010, 02:42 AM

I believe Santa Claus exists.

Respect me.

Claymores · 24-01-2010, 02:46 AM

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I believe Santa Claus exists.

Respect me.

He must have brought you a nice prezzie - I got socks and aftershave! I gonna stop believing in him

Stu · 24-01-2010, 02:47 AM

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He must have brought you a nice prezzie - I got socks and aftershave! I gonna stop believing in him

I will still respect your beliefs

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I believe in the tooth fairy too

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Ghostinthehouse · 24-01-2010, 02:49 AM

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He must have brought you a nice prezzie - I got socks and aftershave! I gonna stop believing in him

That is off topic.

As James said, lets stay on topic shall we.

Tom4784 · 24-01-2010, 02:51 AM

I'm with Stu here, He's made a much more valid point in this thread then anyone else.

For me personally I don't care for any religion, I think there could be something out there but there's no point in worrying either way as there's no way to prove or disprove it. I like to believe in a greater force as it's a comforting thought but I don't really believe in organised religion. I think respecting beliefs is pointless you might not respect mine but it doesn't make them any less valid in my own mind, All that matters to me is my own mind and resolve why should it matter if people respect that or not?