[Nemo123]

I don't watch Western Media any more for my international news. Instead I watch Russia Today and occasionally Press TV from Iran. I know they have gaping holes in their own news, but I'm not interested in their own news. The Western TV news did untold damage to themselves over their coverage of the 2nd Iraq war.

[Josy]

McCain was playing poker on his iPhone during the Senate Hearing..he even tweeted about it

Snapped by a Washington post photographer.

Spoiler:

[arista]

Up to 90 days of this American Air Attack Murdering
sounds like Hell for the General Public.

No proof who did the gas
thats the crime here

[Nemo123]

Just watched, "Syria Crisis, Free Speech", and nobody questioned whether Assad had did it or not. That was just a futile exercise in debate when the entire premise for your case is likely a lie. If Bashir Al Assad is a brutal dictator then the media has done a lousy job reporting it till now.

[Shaun]

Not sure it's been posted, but the Senate's voted 10-7 for military action.

Oh dear.

[Nemo123]

We need China and Russia to say stop to this imperialism.

[Nedusa]

I know lets go over to Syria and fire off hundreds of cruise missiles which will probably kill thousands of innocent people as revenge for Assad killing thousands of innocent people.

Anybody see the flaw in the logic there...???

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

We need China and Russia to say stop to this imperialism.

Yea, because China and Russia are great when it comes to democracy and justice.

[Tom4784]

Foolish Senate.

We should not get involved in a military capacity, send aid to the civilians that are caught in the middle but keep out of the conflict. It's not ours, France's or the US' battle and our presence there will only cause more chaos. Both sides are as bad as each other and neither be favoured.

Let them destroy each other and just do what we can to help the civilians.

[Nedusa]

The astonishing hypocrisy of the US knows no limits, the jaw dropping speeches on Tuesday from senior US politicians almost takes ones breath away.

There has been over 100,000 people killed in the SYRIAN civil war. Now suddenly because chemical weapons were used it matters? To the point where we are going to raise tensions over there to a boiling point?

I didn't see the US crying about red lines when Israel was shelling gaza with white phosphorus... I didn't see the US crying when Iraq was gassing Iran. I didn't see anyone blink when crusty old McCain was meeting with terrorists in Syria (you know.. the guy who cut out the heart of a Syrian christian, and ate it)...

Nope.. don't fear all. The US "Intelligence Community" has all the proof you'll ever need. Oh.. of course they can't SHOW it to you.. just rest easy knowing they HAVE the proof.

I swear, its as if they are sitting in the White House going "let's see how friggin stupid the American public is.. let's see if we can get away with it again".

This whole situation stinks and I'm glad the UK has the sense to stay out of this...!!!

[arista]

[Z]

It angers me a little bit reading about the USA openly discussing how best to bomb Syria. Gun toting war lords, they've got to justify their military somehow...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zee

It angers me a little bit reading about the USA openly discussing how best to bomb Syria. Gun toting war lords, they've got to justify their military somehow...

Yes its Like a Criminal America President
with the numbers of General Public
not knowing if they are safe.


Also on Ch4News
the PM while still on Holiday just before the Vote
was Phoned by the President to get the Vote.

Fecking America
your plan got Destroyed
due to not enough votes who wanted the Deadly Attack.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Yea, because China and Russia are great when it comes to democracy and justice.

The Americans don't care a hoot about Democracy. They don't even have one in America, just 2 parties financed by wealthy oligarchs.

[Nedusa]

Most Americans don't even know that they are living in chains, they talk about land of the free, fat chance they are free to work themselves into an early grave with no meaningful job security and no real welfare state they are at the mercy of their employers all the time. With only 2 weeks a year paid vacation the lowest in the developed world they can't even look forward to a decent holiday.

So they are free to do what ?? Travel abroad ? How with only 2 weeks a year most will go no where probably stay within their home state and remain fairly ignorant to the outside world. In fact 55% of all Americans don't even have passports..

Land of the free.... Pleeeeasee !!!

[GypsyGoth]

I get it, both of you hate america and americans. However I don't think you should take it out on them just because of bad choices that Obama makes. Isn't that like being annoyed at the syrian people for bad choices their leader is making?

[Nemo123]

I don't hate Americans. I spent 4 months there in my youth and they were thoroughly decent people for the most part.

[GypsyGoth]

Oh sorry, I was sure you disliked people from there.

[Nemo123]

They are very badly informed by their news services especially Fox News, but they for the most part are a decent lot. They ought to question more the veracity of what they're being told, given the history they have of being lied to. The military industrial complex is all too keen to get the US involved in wars because it means big bucks for them.

[Donovan.]

Yeah, I was coming in here to read about Syria, but the 'ignorant Americans' comments are pretty hard to read. I don't mind the 'ignorant American government' comments, it's the distinction that makes me feel better about it.

[Nemo123]

The Project for a New American Century, or PNAC, seems to be the governing principle for the colonisation of the entire Middle East. Only Syria and Iran stand in the way of a complete set.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

They are very badly informed by their news services especially Fox News, but they for the most part are a decent lot. They ought to question more the veracity of what they're being told, given the history they have of being lied to. The military industrial complex is all too keen to get the US involved in wars because it means big bucks for them.

americans on average are nicer than british people
at least a person can become successful in America unlike the radical socialist European superstate, which consists of endless bankruptcy and endless erosions of civil rights

Europe is down the toilet, the gap between rich and poor is bigger in Europe now

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Donovan81996

Yeah, I was coming in here to read about Syria, but the 'ignorant Americans' comments are pretty hard to read. I don't mind the 'ignorant American government' comments, it's the distinction that makes me feel better about it.

agreed this is more like ignorant English men

[Nemo123]

Well, I think a lot of Americans understand the importance of the oil-dollar to the wealth of their economy, and tacitly endorse these wars for oil. Libya and Iraq both threatened to trade their oil in Euros or gold, and that marked the end of them.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Donovan81996

Yeah, I was coming in here to read about Syria, but the 'ignorant Americans' comments are pretty hard to read. I don't mind the 'ignorant American government' comments, it's the distinction that makes me feel better about it.

Yes it is the Leaders only.

Not the Public of America
they are great.