[joeysteele]

I cannnot see at all the Scots voting to separate from the UK, I still go with at best whenever the referendum is held that around 62% minimum will vote 'no' to independence.

The thing I am really looking forward to as to this,is to see Conservative,Labour and Lib Dems all for once united in a common cause 'together' to fight to keep Scotland as part of the UK.

[arista]

Joey
many thought Labour would stay in power
in England
but they did not.


I of course , predicted a year before
Conservative - Lib Dem Power

2014-2015
so much can change by then.

[arista]

"Scotland to vote on leaving the Union
as David Cameron agrees referendum"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...eferendum.html


The Deal is signed
for One vote by the end of 2014.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...ameron-salmond

[arista]

Billions Scotland will have
as they will split the Oil and Gas money
with the English. (Source : mondays BBC politics)

So with so much Rich money
loads of Scottish may vote.


2 years to go
as our times get Harder
the Republic Of Scotland
with the UK pound still,
could be a winner.

[michael21]

are you in Scotland arista

[arista]

No

But a Company is.

[arista]

Vote Confirmed as thursday Sept 18th 2014


http://news.sky.com/story/1067962/sc...ependence-vote

[Livia]

Great. I wish the English could vote on it too.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Great. I wish the English could vote on it too.

Then he would Win , for sure

[Marc]

It's been nice knowing you Scotland

[joeysteele]

It won't matter when it is held, I have no doubt that the Scots will vote to remain in the UK.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It won't matter when it is held, I have no doubt that the Scots will vote to remain in the UK.

To Early to say that.

As times get harder
they could Jump

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

To Early to say that.

As times get harder
they could Jump

I simply cannot see that at all, of the Scottish people I have spoken to it actually seems the longer and more they think about the issue the more they turn anti independence, not the other way round.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I simply cannot see that at all, of the Scottish people I have spoken to it actually seems the longer and more they think about the issue the more they turn anti independence, not the other way round.

Sure.



But Lee on here
is for it , for example

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure.



But Lee on here
is for it , for example

I don't like talking as to Lee since she isn't here at present.
I really have massive and in fact endless respect for Lee and have had since joining the forum, I believe she is also a strong SNP supporter too, ( may be wrong on that though),however, I respect her decision and view that Scotland would be better independent if that is her strong feeling as to the issue.

Obviously not all the people I have even discussed this with who are Scots are all against independence but of them, for every 10, I would say only at the maximum 3 are in favour of it and would vote for it,the other 7 likely voting and being against.

[Shasown]

Lee is one person, I live in Scotland I will have a vote in the referendum, I will vote to stay.

I have to admit in some elections I have voted SNP not for the independence issue but simply because they do have some other great policies: university fees, prescription charges, etc.

Salmond is being naive when he says Scotland would automatically be re-accepted back in the EU. That isnt so, EU lawyers, the last EU president and UK lawyers who work specifically with EU matters all say Scotland would have to reapply. But wee lec knows best.

Now what would happen is fishings quotas etc would stand till they lapse, so countries like Spain would insist on Scotland surrendering the rights to close off Scottish watersand even ask for them to reduce the Scottish fleet entirely. But again wee Alex knows best.

Whats left of the UK could veto, just a nasty message to Scotland. Would we be that vindictive?


And The English could ask for border restrictions to be put in place at EU and Scottish expense, as Scotland wouldnt be an EU country.

And forget about oil and gas, everyone thinks its a big earner, Scotland would have to renegotiate licence agreements with various oil companies when current ones expire. Until then current licences stand, it goes to the UK.

That in itself could be a bad move you see Oil companies are out for profit, pure and simple they can afford the best international lawyers in the world, Scotland could technically be closed down.(Bankrupted internationally).

One thing old Alex shouts down is the fact that Scotland receives more money from the UK than it contributes even with the money from North Sea oil and gas. (Google Barnett Formula)

Scotland as an independant nation cant go it alone, the country would bankrupt itself in a couple of years if not months. Alex lives in a dream world where the EU would pump money in, they wont! Scotland would just drain EU funds and there is enugh countries doing that already.

[arista]

United

I had to post this here
as a record on 7/7/2013


Sneaky



PM : you oink
whats your game here?

[Nedusa]

Yes united, David thinking great win for British Tennis and Alex thinking great win for Scottish Tennis........!!!!

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Yes united, David thinking great win for British Tennis and Alex thinking great win for Scottish Tennis........!!!!

It IS a great win for Scottish tennis!

Look, we're pish at every sport! Please let us enjoy this one moment!

[LikeABoatOnWater]

Get scotland out, get scotland out.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LikeABoatOnWater

Get scotland out, get scotland out.

No its Free Scotland
let them stand on their own feet

[LikeABoatOnWater]

also the union is a 2 way thing. the rest of the uk should also get a referendum to vote scotland out. so if one of the referendums comes back with a yes for scottish independence then the scots are alone.

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by LikeABoatOnWater

also the union is a 2 way thing. the rest of the uk should also get a referendum to vote scotland out. so if one of the referendums comes back with a yes for scottish independence then the scots are alone.

Why do you think Westminster are against Scottish independence?

[LikeABoatOnWater]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Why do you think Westminster are against Scottish independence?

there not because theyre all about tradition.

[Scarlett.]

I doubt the rest of the Union would choose to vote Scotland out if that happened, Scotland is a great benefit to the rest of the Union, if they leave it would be a great loss.