[Black Dagger]

Has he not bloody finished yet.

[Jack_]

He keeps stumbling on his words and doesn't know what to say. Basically, he doesn't have a point and is just making up excuses to prevent allowing gay people the same rights he's entitled to because he's a homophobic bigoted backwards ******.

[Jack_]

'a measure which is going to have a huge impact on our human lives'

el oh el

[Black Dagger]

OMG, yes he's here.

You go Nick Herbert.

[Apple202]

go nick

[Jack_]

Spoiler:

My local MP in the background. A vile man with an abhorrent voting history:

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/and.../isle_of_wight

But LOL @ the screenshot I took

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I never learnt about any kind of marriage in sex ed classes...

We did relationships and so as such touched a bit on marriage, but the MP in questions point was more about teachers being allowed to openly express their contempt for same sex marriage and that it was 'wrong'.

[Jack_]

Clause to allow registrars to opt-out was defeated - Ayes 150, Noes 340. Thank **** for that.

[Jack_]

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

As much as I support equal marriage..whoever said this is an utter twat.

I understand what they are trying to say..but theres absolutely no need to be like that about it. Just creating more 'them and us' type mentalities really :/

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yeah... way to sabotage your own argument.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah... way to sabotage your own argument.

Is that supposed to be directed at me or the guy that said it?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Is that supposed to be directed at me or the guy that said it?

Well, at him for saying it, and to you for posting it on a serious debates thread with a laughing smiley. It's an important and serious subject.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well, at him for saying it, and to you for posting it on a serious debates thread with a laughing smiley. It's an important and serious subject.

Yeah, I think I know that more than anyone in this thread. But I don't think finding something a comedian has said funny devalues my argument or has derailed this thread either. It's one post in seven pages. In fact, I was the only one talking to myself in here so it's hardly been a debate.

[Jack_]

Oooh, the debate and subsequent vote is now on extending civil partnerships to heterosexual couples. This'll be an interesting one.

[Jack_]

I'm guessing he's a comedian, so the way in which he said it wasn't serious. The point was but the anger that he said it was was exaggerated.

[Kizzy]

This is all a smokescreen anyway, what else is going on that they had to have this debate again?
Not that it isn't a serious issue but I can't help but suspect it's a cover for something more controversial.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

This is all a smokescreen anyway, what else is going on that they had to have this debate again?
Not that it isn't a serious issue but I can't help but suspect it's a cover for something more controversial.

It's the report stage, people are getting confused and thinking that because the bill passed last time, that's it, it's done with.

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/...uplesbill.html

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's the report stage, people are getting confused and thinking that because the bill passed last time, that's it, it's done with.

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/...uplesbill.html

I know but why the drama, these days bills get rushed through so quick there is none of this... Especially anything to do with welfare so why is this being forced back in the public eye?

[Jack_]

I really don't know how I feel about this civil partnership amendment.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I really don't know how I feel about this civil partnership amendment.

I agree that straight coples should be able to have civil partnerships if they wish.

But I think that should be a seperate issue..as it will just slow this down I think

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I agree that straight coples should be able to have civil partnerships if they wish.

But I think that should be a seperate issue..as it will just slow this down I think

I think I'm leaning more towards this argument too, although some are suggesting that the claims that it'll push this bill back to after the general election, and that it'll cost £4billion are 'exaggerated', so I'm not really sure what to believe. Perhaps Livia would know more on the ins and outs of this.

[Jack_]

One thing I don't like is that this amendment has been raised by an MP who opposes same sex marriage. That's just pathetic and really does make it look like an attempt to derail this.

[Ninastar]

one thing i don't understand is hating on people's religion for not being supportive of gay marriage. surely it's hypocritical to hate on them for not believing in something?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

one thing i don't understand is hating on people's religion for not being supportive of gay marriage. surely it's hypocritical to hate on them for not believing in something?

[2.] I'm obviously in favour of gay marriage but if religious institutions choose to not wed a same-sex couple, I fear that people will develop negative attitudes towards religious people, even though I hate religion in general.

[Jack_]

Well well well...look who has had his say...

https://twitter.com/JohnLoughton/sta...65520138657792