[MrWong]

[user104658]

Originally Posted by liampadams

why dont you just switch off or turn the channel if you dont like it instead of ruining it for every one else by complaining?? RANT OVER!!

Yeah what are we thinking? This isn't the way of our generation! When we see someone being pushed down, trodden on and dehumanised... when we see an injustice staring us in the face on live TV... what should we do? Turn to another channel of course! Avert our eyes! It's the best thing to do, right? If we pretend it isn't happening, everything will be just fine.

I'd be happy if they cancelled the show and Endemol went bankrup after this ****. It's absolutely foul. And anyone who finds it entertaining really needs to think about the things that they "enjoy", and why.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah what are we thinking? This isn't the way of our generation! When we see someone being pushed down, trodden on and dehumanised... when we see an injustice staring us in the face on live TV... what should we do? Turn to another channel of course! Avert our eyes! It's the best thing to do, right? If we pretend it isn't happening, everything will be just fine.

I'd be happy if they cancelled the show and Endemol went bankrup after this ****. It's absolutely foul. And anyone who finds it entertaining really needs to think about the things that they "enjoy", and why.

You seriously don't think that's an exaggeration?

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by Josy

You seriously don't think that's an exaggeration?

Hazel was just pissed off at Gina, not being brutally beaten

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Josy

You seriously don't think that's an exaggeration?

No. And not just because of this, or Hazel. The way the entire show has been handled this year is sickening.

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

No. And not just because of this, or Hazel. The way the entire show has been handled this year is sickening.

Are you gonna watch tomorrow night?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah what are we thinking? This isn't the way of our generation! When we see someone being pushed down, trodden on and dehumanised... when we see an injustice staring us in the face on live TV... what should we do? Turn to another channel of course! Avert our eyes! It's the best thing to do, right? If we pretend it isn't happening, everything will be just fine.

I'd be happy if they cancelled the show and Endemol went bankrup after this ****. It's absolutely foul. And anyone who finds it entertaining really needs to think about the things that they "enjoy", and why.

My sides.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MrWong

My sides.

Are you really trying to claim that Hazel HASN'T been dehumanised by BB production / BOTS?

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Are you really trying to claim that Hazel HASN'T been dehumanised by BB production / BOTS?

Dehumanised is ****ing strong. They work with storylines, both Gina and Hazel have their faults but Hazel is least liked so there is your answer.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Are you really trying to claim that Hazel HASN'T been dehumanised by BB production / BOTS?

Yes.

Are you really claiming that she has?

Slaves were dehumanized. Prisoners of war are dehumanized.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Slaves were dehumanized. Prisoners of war are dehumanized.

She has been reduced to an "evil pantomime character", a "homewrecking slut" with no emotions who is fair game for destruction. It's not the first time it's happened on BB, but it is probably the worst.

By definition, this is dehumanization.

Just because it's not the worst example of it, does not mean that it's irrelevant. There are plenty of malnourished children in the UK, for example. Pointing out that "there are children in Africa who get less" doesn't mean that those UK children are not malnourished.

[Seanbon]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah what are we thinking? This isn't the way of our generation! When we see someone being pushed down, trodden on and dehumanised... when we see an injustice staring us in the face on live TV... what should we do? Turn to another channel of course! Avert our eyes! It's the best thing to do, right? If we pretend it isn't happening, everything will be just fine.

I'd be happy if they cancelled the show and Endemol went bankrup after this ****. It's absolutely foul. And anyone who finds it entertaining really needs to think about the things that they "enjoy", and why.

Well said Toy Soldier!
Also all the people saying she signed up for it,and she knew in advance of the shock-suits,no one signs up to be bullied,and giving the power to shock a HM to someone who is a delusional vindictive bitch is probably not part of the deal either!?!?!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Seanbon

Well said Toy Soldier!
Also all the people saying she signed up for it,and she knew in advance of the shock-suits,no one signs up to be bullied,and giving the power to shock a HM to someone who is a delusional vindictive bitch is probably not part of the deal either!?!?!

Everytime the shock button was pressed each and every HM other than Gina and Charlie got a shock, Sam and Dexter shocked themselves when they pressed the buzzer, the only HM that complained was Hazel, Hazel knows where the DR room is if she feels she is being picked on, Gina and Hazel have taken the opportunity to pick on each other from very early on, I won't be signing any petition.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah what are we thinking? This isn't the way of our generation! When we see someone being pushed down, trodden on and dehumanised... when we see an injustice staring us in the face on live TV... what should we do? Turn to another channel of course! Avert our eyes! It's the best thing to do, right? If we pretend it isn't happening, everything will be just fine.

I'd be happy if they cancelled the show and Endemol went bankrup after this ****. It's absolutely foul. And anyone who finds it entertaining really needs to think about the things that they "enjoy", and why.

You are absolutely right in every word you have posted on this subject. The bully culture on our TV screens these days has numbed a lot of people to the reality of the effect it has on the person who is bullied. Unless that person is crying buckets of tears and broken many people can't see that they might be affected inside by the cruelty toward them.
If a person puts up a good front and tries to stand up to the bully, then they are demonized because they didn't crumple up in a heap and let the masses have the pleasure of seeing them being demoralized.
Hazel is a dignified sort of person and Gina was trying damn hard to get Hazel to lose her dignity. That is bullying of the worst kind - trying to lower someone's dignity. I can't believe I ever liked Gina - she is nothing but a thug.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by liampadams

1. Its not live
2. IMO its just part of the task Big Brother has given other housemates extra power like this before so why did you not complain then??
3. And im saying this as a person who has been a victim of bullying before and I dont see this as bullying.
4. I think Hazel and Gina are both as bad as eachother. Theyre always winding one another up, so there is not just one person being singled out

1. I should have said "unscripted" on "non-fictional" (although that's debatable this year...), couldn't think of the right word.

2. Because people very rarely abuse that extra power with genuine viciousness.

3. I'm not sure "bullying" is exactly the right word for it, but whatever it is it's certainly not "right".

4. If it was just between Gina and Hazel then yet, fine, there's been a lot of tit-for-tat and there have been plenty of these "rivalries" over the years. But the extra meddling by the show's production this year has completely altered how all of this has gone down, and Hazel HAS been singled out, since the point when Daley was removed.