[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by anne666

Self harming is always a result of negativity from others in some form. As far as all of this is concerned BB have a lot to answer to, as usual. I'm also NOT a fan of either of them.

This is incorrect. Self-harm is a maladaptive coping strategy, often associated with disorders of peersonality and past trauma. It is not necessarily the result of anyone else's negativity at the point of self harm and can be the result of individuals' intrapersonal difficulties and perceived (sometimes quite wrongly) conflict. Linda did allude to self harm, pointing to her wrists during her interview, but this was quickly brushed over.

Self-harm does not immediately mean Linda would have to be removed as many people self-harm until afforded a more positive, less harmful alternative, and it may have been concluded that the opportunity this show provided her outweighed the current risks in terms of a risk/benefit analysis.

Jim did not make Linda self harm. Linda self-harmed and it may have been due to her relationship with Jim or any other stressor. This is probably not the first time she has done so, and Jiim was unlikely to have been there every time. Hence, if the headline, for which Linda has been paid, states it is his fault, people are within their rights to berate her for what seems to me to be a very low blow.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

This is incorrect. Self-harm is a maladaptive coping strategy, often associated with disorders of peersonality and past trauma. It is not necessarily the result of anyone else's negativity at the point of self harm and can be the result of individuals' intrapersonal difficulties and perceived (sometimes quite wrongly) conflict. Linda did allude to self harm, pointing to her wrists during her interview, but this was quickly brushed over.

Self-harm does not immediately mean Linda would have to be removed as many people self-harm until afforded a more positive, less harmful alternative, and it may have been concluded that the opportunity this show provided her outweighed the current risks in terms of a risk/benefit analysis.

Jim did not make Linda self harm. Linda self-harmed and it may have been due to her relationship with Jim or any other stressor. This is probably not the first time she has done so, and Jiim was unlikely to have been there every time. Hence, if the headline, for which Linda has been paid, states it is his fault, people are within their rights to berate her for what seems to me to be a very low blow.

Can someone post the interview vid, and the time when she points at her wrists? I can't find the video.

[Jordan.]

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

This is incorrect. Self-harm is a maladaptive coping strategy, often associated with disorders of peersonality and past trauma. It is not necessarily the result of anyone else's negativity at the point of self harm and can be the result of individuals' intrapersonal difficulties and perceived (sometimes quite wrongly) conflict. Linda did allude to self harm, pointing to her wrists during her interview, but this was quickly brushed over.

Self-harm does not immediately mean Linda would have to be removed as many people self-harm until afforded a more positive, less harmful alternative, and it may have been concluded that the opportunity this show provided her outweighed the current risks in terms of a risk/benefit analysis.

Jim did not make Linda self harm. Linda self-harmed and it may have been due to her relationship with Jim or any other stressor. This is probably not the first time she has done so, and Jiim was unlikely to have been there every time. Hence, if the headline, for which Linda has been paid, states it is his fault, people are within their rHer sister died late last year and she had depression before going intiights to berate her for what seems to me to be a very low blow.

Linda's sister died late last year and she had been suffering with depression before entering the house...so whatever reason she is giving for self harming it certainly has nothing to do with her relationship with Jim or anything he has done.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Linda's sister died late last year and she had been suffering with depression before entering the house...so whatever reason she is giving for self harming it certainly has nothing to do with her relationship with Jim or anything he has done.

He's a good scapegoat though videostar,she can blame it all on Jim

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

The way you go on you'd think she was bad mouthing someone close to you. It's just a TV show.

She was blaming a fellow HM for her own long standing issues, that isn't on, and for The Daily Star to publish it is a disgrace.

BTW why do you get so heated about a reality TV show? your bile about Jim suggests your taking this all too personally.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He's a good scapegoat though videostar

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Videostar

She was blaming a fellow HM for her own long standing issues, that isn't on, and for The Daily Star to publish it is a disgrace.

BTW why do you get so heated about a reality TV show? your bile about Jim suggests your taking this all too personally.

You're one to talk, I think your Linda hatred far outweighs my dislike for Jim.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

so if that was your Dad in there and someone was treating him like Linda treated Jim, you would let it go?

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

so if that was your Dad in there and someone was treating him like Linda treated Jim, you would let it go?

I wouldn't imply that I wanted Linda dead no

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I wouldn't imply that I wanted Linda dead no

Big of you. It may not be the right words but you can understand him being protective of his Dad.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

The response is too extreme for my liking.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

You're one to talk, I think your Linda hatred far outweighs my dislike for Jim.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that, at least at the start of the show when Linda was handcuffed to Jim and she was fine then I did like her, and I supported her sister in a previous CBB.

You never gave Jim a chance from day one, forgiveness just isn't a word in your dictionary is it, you slate him for things you think you know about him from his past, I judged Linda on her actions in the house.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

The response is too extreme for my liking.

That was harsh of his son, but then im sure the Nolan family isn't wishing Jim the best of health either.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Videostar

so whatever reason she is giving for self harming it certainly has nothing to do with her relationship with Jim or anything he has done.

That's a pretty bold statement tbh

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Videostar

We'll have to agree to disagree on that, at least at the start of the show when Linda was handcuffed to Jim and she was fine then I did like her, and I supported her sister in a previous CBB.

You never gave Jim a chance from day one, forgiveness just isn't a word in your dictionary is it, you slate him for things you think you know about him from his past, I judged Linda on her actions in the house.

Well that's wrong because I didn't really care of have an opinion on him until after the dressing room comment, that's when I really how nasty and fake he was being in the house, the stuff that he's done in his past just added to that dislike.

[the truth]

jim is a remarkably forgiving bloke, but really h may have to take some legal action over this endless slander and smearing. the way hes risen above the false accusations is staggering.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

That's a pretty bold statement tbh

Not really seeing as Colleen Nolan said that Linda was suicidal several weeks before going in.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Well that's wrong because I didn't really care of have an opinion on him until after the dressing room comment, that's when I really how nasty and fake he was being in the house, the stuff that he's done in his past just added to that dislike.

So the dressing room comment has spurred you on to bring up Jim's past, over and over again, so his past never bothered you before FCDR comment.?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

The response is too extreme for my liking.

I've heard worse said on here tbh.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Videostar

So the dressing room comment has spurred you on to bring up Jim's past, over and over again, so his past never bothered you before FCDR comment.?

I mean, Jim bringing up anyone's past opens all sorts of doors with his past so,

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I've heard worse said on here tbh.

True.

[calyman]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Well said, Ammi.

I think self harm is really sad and nothing to make jokes about.

But I guess it's okay to make a fast buck from??????

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

I mean, Jim bringing up anyone's past opens all sorts of doors with his past so,

By mentioning a dressing room, no names, no details.

Hardly open's up talking about "rumours and conjecture" about Jim's past.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Well that's wrong because I didn't really care of have an opinion on him until after the dressing room comment, that's when I really how nasty and fake he was being in the house, the stuff that he's done in his past just added to that dislike.

he has been abused slandered lied about bullied and his character has been defamed. in repsonse he has made people laugh, he has cooked hes cleaned , hes listened and even helped his haters when they were down. like telling jasmine that liz didnt mean her any harm when the subject of liz saying she wanted to kill herself came up, or making luisa laugh when she was crying by calling himself a sexist pig, or helping dappy when he had a migraine or lee and casey etc

he had every right ao ask linda why she was abusing him . frank;ly big brother should have called her up for bulling anyway. how many times should a perosn be abused and lied about? his self defence was to ask was it what happened in frank carsons dressing room? why not> she brought up her husband and the past before she even entered, she dragged up the past endlessly with jim, she also brought up her husband when she chose to show off about the fact she cheated on her dead husband endlessly? what complete and utter hypocrisy



jim is well within his rights to take legal action over some of the slanderous comments, in particular on bit on the side/psych. his reaction and behaviour in rising above it all has been simply incredible.