[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well no because his contract ended in 2012 soon after his conviction, they've paid him nothing since then and owe him nothing now

They only let him train with them following a request from the PFA

Then if they have no vested interest why on earth are they ruining the reputation of the club by having him there?... It makes no sense.

[GypsyGoth]

I really don't think there should be anything to stop him legally from working as a footballer again. Since as far as I know he was only sentenced to prison time.

The fact that his old football club are thinking of employing him again. That's up to them and their conscience. But for sure he should be allowed to take that job if offered.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

People resent footy players because they get paid too much and are usually thick and common.

To avoid saying this try saying: but he is a role model for kids


Now it sounds better and we can hate on him with impunity

[In the Drunk Tank]

I think Paul Heaton's view is completely understandable, he strongly believes Evans has a right to play again but doesn't think that Sheffield United should take him back considering they were the club and the people most immediately let down by his actions. There is this distinction here between not playing at all and not playing for Sheffield United, the latter doesn't rule out the former.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think Paul Heaton's view is completely understandable, he strongly believes Evans has a right to play again but doesn't think that Sheffield United should take him back considering they were the club and the people most immediately let down by his actions. There is this distinction here between not playing at all and not playing for Sheffield United, the latter doesn't rule out the former.

Yep, him going down pretty much cost them promotion back up to the championship. He was banging them in for the blunts and then he goes down, we sign Michail Antonio and then take their place in the second automatic spot establishing ourselves once again as Sheffield's dominant club.

Taking personal feelings aside (I despise rapists) that lad cost them big time.

[arista]

Sheffield United have said
convicted rapist Ched Evans
will not be returning to train
at the club following public outcry over the decision.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3JeKXawKO

http://news.sky.com/story/1377321/sh...evans-training

[Kizzy]

Good.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Good.

yes makes sense

[In the Drunk Tank]

Embarrassing u-turn, Sheffield United have made a complete hash of the whole case

[In the Drunk Tank]

Convicted rapist Ched Evans has been offered an unexpected route back into football by Maltese team Hibernians.

The Maltese Premier League club revealed last night that they had made an offer for Evans to play for the side for the next six months.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3NlOTOq1Z
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ffs at this quote from them: "Our vice-president has offered the contract until the end of the season to this glorious player to come over to Malta and play for our top team. We are leading the table at the moment"

I'm pretty sure they are just trolling people with it really

[Kizzy]

Meanwhile the victim has had to move 5 times and couldn't spend Christmas with her family.

[Northern Monkey]

Well,He'll be moving abroad so away from his 'victim'.Probably the best move he could make tbh.Those like Jessica Ennis who were against him going back to Sheffield will also be pleased that he's moving abroad.

[arista]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Well,He'll be moving abroad so away from his 'victim'.Probably the best move he could make tbh.Those like Jessica Ennis who were against him going back to Sheffield will also be pleased that he's moving abroad.

Possible he may play for Malta
but UK has Blocked that.

[Locke.]

Convicted rapist Ched Evans is in talks about signing with an unnamed League One club, according to Gordon Taylor, the chief executive of the Professional Footballers' Association.

Taylor revealed the news on BBC Radio 5 live's Sportsweek, and says the club will hold a news conference on Monday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30671692

Here we go.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Convicted rapist Ched Evans is in talks about signing with an unnamed League One club, according to Gordon Taylor, the chief executive of the Professional Footballers' Association.

Taylor revealed the news on BBC Radio 5 live's Sportsweek, and says the club will hold a news conference on Monday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30671692

Here we go.

Oldham apparently, pretty lucky if so landing at a team barely a step down from the Blades

[Niall]

I can see that this is already a 7 page thread but I'm gonna throw my two pennies worth just because this interests me.

I don't think he should be allowed back on a pro football team considering this really. When you think of the fame and the money he'll receive and the support he'll get from people for getting back into football it just.. it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It's like the tacit assent from a large institution and vast swathe of people that this is their view on rape: so long as you spend a couple years in prison after forcing yourself on someone and traumatising them for life, we'll still love and adore you afterwards don't worry.

I just don't think he should be allowed that kind of privilege, fame and fortune after committing such a morally depraved act. Yes that might send a message about convicts in general but this is a crime that's particularly traumatising, and especially rife within society with violence against women being something at epidemic levels throughout the western world. Think of how the victim would feel if he becomes a pro footballer again, earning stupid amounts of money? It'll look like nothing more than society giving him a low-key thumbs up despite how he's ruined her life. It's not right, but then I suppose that's rape culture at work. Defend the rapist at the expense of the victim.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niall

I can see that this is already a 7 page thread but I'm gonna throw my two pennies worth just because this interests me.

I don't think he should be allowed back on a pro football team considering this really. When you think of the fame and the money he'll receive and the support he'll get from people for getting back into football it just.. it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It's like the tacit assent from a large institution and vast swathe of people that this is their view on rape: so long as you spend a couple years in prison after forcing yourself on someone and traumatising them for life, we'll still love and adore you afterwards don't worry.

I just don't think he should be allowed that kind of privilege, fame and fortune after committing such a morally depraved act. Yes that might send a message about convicts in general but this is a crime that's particularly traumatising, and especially rife within society with violence against women being something at epidemic levels throughout the western world. Think of how the victims would feel if he becomes a pro footballer again, earning stupid amounts of money? It'll look like nothing more than society giving him a low-key thumbs up despite how he's ruined her life. It's not right, but then I suppose that's rape culture at work. Defend the rapist at the expense of the victim.

To play the Devil's Advocate though, if someone's served their sentence do they not have the right to carry on with their lives? If not then what's the point of sentencing someone in the first place? It shouldn't really matter whether someone is famous or not since, in the eyes of the law everyone should be equal when it comes to crime and punishment.

I'm still pretty conflicted about it tbh. It's a very difficult topic.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

To play the Devil's Advocate though, if someone's served their sentence do they not have the right to carry on with their lives? If not then what's the point of sentencing someone in the first place? It shouldn't really matter whether someone is famous or not since, in the eyes of the law everyone should be equal when it comes to crime and punishment.

I'm still pretty conflicted about it tbh. It's a very difficult topic.

Plus, what Niall's saying is only really valid if we're to believe that Evans really did rape the victim. Everything about the trial is so shaky that I don't believe he even committed a crime; why is it that the first guy who had sex with the girl wasn't convicted of rape but Evans was? Why would you willingly go to a hotel room with a bunch of footballers if you weren't keen to have sex with a bunch of footballers? I think there are certain types of women who go after footballers because they expect to be the next Mrs Beckham, Rooney, Cole; and this young lady took it too far.

Either way, we'll never know for sure what happened but Evans maintains his innocence and has never said sorry and I think that speaks volumes about what really happened that night. You're not going to say sorry if you've got nothing to be sorry for. Let the man play football. The girl still has her anonymity as far as the masses are concerned, she can go on to lead a normal life - he'll forever be deemed a rapist in the minds of many people regardless of whether he did it or not and I think that's punishment enough.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Z

Plus, what Niall's saying is only really valid if we're to believe that Evans really did rape the victim. Everything about the trial is so shaky that I don't believe he even committed a crime; why is it that the first guy who had sex with the girl wasn't convicted of rape but Evans was? Why would you willingly go to a hotel room with a bunch of footballers if you weren't keen to have sex with a bunch of footballers? I think there are certain types of women who go after footballers because they expect to be the next Mrs Beckham, Rooney, Cole; and this young lady took it too far.

Either way, we'll never know for sure what happened but Evans maintains his innocence and has never said sorry and I think that speaks volumes about what really happened that night. You're not going to say sorry if you've got nothing to be sorry for. Let the man play football. The girl still has her anonymity as far as the masses are concerned, she can go on to lead a normal life - he'll forever be deemed a rapist in the minds of many people regardless of whether he did it or not and I think that's punishment enough.

Maybe she consented to sex with A footballer but not footballers?
The court had enough evidence to convict, the fact he hasn't said sorry isn't any guarantee, prisons are full of people protesting their innocence.
She isn't leading a normal life, mainly due to the opinion that she's a money grabbing *****.

If I walked down the street blindfold with Ł200 sticking out of my back pocket and someone took it would it still be theft, or not because it was on show and I was oblivious?

[In the Drunk Tank]

Oldham were also the first team to sign Lee Hughes after his death by dangerous driving conviction

Edit - mind you the Star are saying its Port Vale, think most of the tabloids are just guessing really

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Oldham were also the first team to sign Lee Hughes after his death by dangerous driving conviction

Edit - mind you the Star are saying its Port Vale, think most of the tabloids are just guessing really

Maybe Oldham have calculated they can withstand the inevitable press uproar and still obtain a premiership quality player for a knock down price.

Business always trumps morality.... It seems




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[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Maybe Oldham have calculated they can withstand the inevitable press uproar and still obtain a premiership quality player for a knock down price.

Business always trumps morality.... It seems




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He's not Premier league quality though, he was having a great season in league 1 at the time of his arrest but hes been out of football nearly 3 years now and will have lost a lot of fitness

Lot of the fans on their forum already saying they won't be attending matches while hes there if they sign him

[Z]

I'd have thought like with most rape cases all they have for evidence is the words of the parties involved and whether they stack up against the alleged timeline of events; what else could there be? I think the word rape is a really loaded term - personally I don't consider a scenario like the Ched Evans one to be in the same ballpark as a guy stalking a woman down an alleyway and brutally violating her - do you? I think there ought to be a distinction made, there are surely degrees of rape in the same way there are degrees of murder. Somebody who plans to kill someone and somebody who accidentally kills someone both still have blood on their hands but it seems wrong to bunch them both together as "murderers" - I guess that's why I have an issue with this case and think he should be allowed to return to football. If he did do it, it certainly wasn't a violent violation of this woman.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Z

I'd have thought like with most rape cases all they have for evidence is the words of the parties involved and whether they stack up against the alleged timeline of events; what else could there be? I think the word rape is a really loaded term - personally I don't consider a scenario like the Ched Evans one to be in the same ballpark as a guy stalking a woman down an alleyway and brutally violating her - do you? I think there ought to be a distinction made, there are surely degrees of rape in the same way there are degrees of murder. Somebody who plans to kill someone and somebody who accidentally kills someone both still have blood on their hands but it seems wrong to bunch them both together as "murderers" - I guess that's why I have an issue with this case and think he should be allowed to return to football. If he did do it, it certainly wasn't a violent violation of this woman.

I do yes because you can't 'accidently' rape someone can you?

All rape is violent as it's an assault, she may have consented to sex with the other guy which is why he was not convicted of rape.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I do yes because you can't 'accidently' rape someone can you?

All rape is violent as it's an assault, she may have consented to sex with the other guy which is why he was not convicted of rape.

I agree with you, however it's a pretty dangerous game to play by enticing two strangers into a hotel room stripping naked with both of them and after having sex with the first one in front of the second guy, then telling the second one she is not interested.




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