[Jason.]

I think it's confirmed. Liam's a communist

[reece(:]

Ronnie on BBUS praised Hitler for being a good speaker to the people and was admirable, he didn't even get a warning for that. PC gone mad again really.

[Heaven = Winner]

Give Tila another chance tbh <3

[Ashsleigh]

Originally Posted by Heaven = Winner

Give Tila another chance tbh <3

Update your sig pronto

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

This whole thing is a disgusting, pathetic, shambolic joke.

Here's what all of this boils down to. Firstly, assuming they casting directors had no idea of the controversial statements Tila has made in the past, that is quite frankly a woeful lack of research that has gone into the preparation for this series. Stop being so ****ing incompetent.

On the opposite end of the scale, if they were aware of her history regarding these issues, and yet still chose to cast her only to eject her before 24 hours had passed - potentially as a publicity stunt - this is perhaps the lowest this pack of useless ***** whom call themselves a production team have ever sunk. Let's put this into perspective here - there's a good chance that of the viewers whom had no idea who Tila was, and that's probably a majority of the audience, most of them definitely had no idea about all of this controversy in her past. So to deliberately (or even unintentionally, to be honest) cast this woman onto a television show which is going to raise her profile knowing full well of her history of depression and mental illness, only to then put all the attention on her a day later by chucking her out for comments she made two years ago when she was going through said mental illnesses, is absolutely ****ing abhorrent.

This is effectively letting somebody move on from their past, casting them on your show to show a better side of themselves, and then stopping that in its tracks to say 'hey guys, remember when she said all these things a couple of years ago? remember that! you know, when she was going through a rough patch in her life that she's now apparently overcome! here's what she said everyone!' so that she can be abused, vilified and hated all over again. This is a new low and if it's all for publicity at the expense of someone's mental health then this is grounds for an axe alone to be quite honest. This is not the way to treat another human being for the purposes of press attention, ratings or morality.

She either shouldn't have been cast in the first place if they had done their ****ing research properly, or she should have been left to enjoy her time in a programme she had been paid (and isn't anymore) to do.

Now if she had expressed opinions of this ilk inside the house then that's a different matter, however I don't think it's grounds for an immediate ejection. Most housemates receive formal warnings for making controversial and potentially offensive remarks inside the house several times before they are rightfully ejected, and if this is what led to her removal then this is what should have happened first as far as I am concerned.

And really all of this can be disregarded anyway because the bottom line of it is, if she never said anything inside the house, comments made outside of the constraints of Big Brother should not be reason to remove someone from the show. We, and the producers, are supposed to judge the actions of the housemates inside the house. That is the point of the show. If you are going to eject people for things they have done and said before the show began, especially when it's as long as two years ago, then not only have you not done your research properly you incompetent, laughably useless ****ing twats, but this show shouldn't exist.

This show is a mess. A disgusting in all senses of the word, ****ing mess

I haven't read this post (more of a speech) cause I'm a lazy bastard, but I know I'll agree with it so this ^^^^^

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Ronnie on BBUS praised Hitler for being a good speaker to the people and was admirable, he didn't even get a warning for that. PC gone mad again really.

Not wanting people with Nazi views in public spotlight with no apprehension is not PC gone mad.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Not wanting people with Nazi views in public spotlight with no apprehension is not PC gone mad.

(Not sure you've read the OP...)

[Time to Sleigh]

I'm sure someone may have already said this but I haven't looked past first page. But I don't understand why she got removed when Katie Hopkins was made out to be amazing for her offensive views. Tila was wrong to have the opinion she did but wasn't in a good place at the time and could have made an amazing housemate the person she is now

[Jarvio]

Originally Posted by ShakeyJake10

I'm sure someone may have already said this but I haven't looked past first page. But I don't understand why she got removed when Katie Hopkins was made out to be amazing for her offensive views. Tila was wrong to have the opinion she did but wasn't in a good place at the time and could have made an amazing housemate the person she is now

Maybe Hitler "wasn't in a good place" when he killed those millions of people

[Ashsleigh]

Originally Posted by Jarvio

Maybe Hitler "wasn't in a good place" when he killed those millions of people

I assume Tila killing millions of people was wiped from history or something

[Jarvio]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I assume Tila killing millions of people was wiped from history or something

Well yeah, she didn't kill anyone, but she supported someone who did.

People are trying to justify her opinions just because they like her, or think she'd be a good HM.

[y.winter]

Originally Posted by Jarvio

Well yeah, she didn't kill anyone, but she supported someone who did.

People are trying to justify her opinions just because they like her, or think she'd be a good HM.

Keep that truth coming
People are blinded by the potential housemates quality. Some should open a history book and learn which qualities should be praised and which not.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Ronnie on BBUS praised Hitler for being a good speaker to the people and was admirable, he didn't even get a warning for that. PC gone mad again really.

Kevin's reaction to this was iconic

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by y.winter

Actually, Hitler and the Nazi party were elected by democracy and the freedom of speech.
Actions are triggered by words and ideas. That's how it all happened.
I don't see anything PC in defending the memory of the holocaust victims (which are, again, not only jews but blacks and gays and the list goes on, you brits were just not the first up that list).

Tila has tried several times to reason and promote the murderers (and the overall Nazi ideas) of my family and many more innocent people.
But enjoy your freedom of speech, I hope none of you nor your family members will have to go through such an horrible thing.

"Enjoy your freedom of speech??"

Yes!! I will do!!

Millions died and suffered (including my family, seeing as you mentioned it) precisely so we COULD all enjoy our freedom of speech!!

I'm not going to take that for granted or complain about it every time i hear the opinion of someone i disagree with! That would be an insult to their memory.

Tsk!

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Jack_

This whole thing is a disgusting, pathetic, shambolic joke.

Here's what all of this boils down to. Firstly, assuming they casting directors had no idea of the controversial statements Tila has made in the past, that is quite frankly a woeful lack of research that has gone into the preparation for this series. Stop being so ****ing incompetent.

On the opposite end of the scale, if they were aware of her history regarding these issues, and yet still chose to cast her only to eject her before 24 hours had passed - potentially as a publicity stunt - this is perhaps the lowest this pack of useless ***** whom call themselves a production team have ever sunk. Let's put this into perspective here - there's a good chance that of the viewers whom had no idea who Tila was, and that's probably a majority of the audience, most of them definitely had no idea about all of this controversy in her past. So to deliberately (or even unintentionally, to be honest) cast this woman onto a television show which is going to raise her profile knowing full well of her history of depression and mental illness, only to then put all the attention on her a day later by chucking her out for comments she made two years ago when she was going through said mental illnesses, is absolutely ****ing abhorrent.

This is effectively letting somebody move on from their past, casting them on your show to show a better side of themselves, and then stopping that in its tracks to say 'hey guys, remember when she said all these things a couple of years ago? remember that! you know, when she was going through a rough patch in her life that she's now apparently overcome! here's what she said everyone!' so that she can be abused, vilified and hated all over again. This is a new low and if it's all for publicity at the expense of someone's mental health then this is grounds for an axe alone to be quite honest. This is not the way to treat another human being for the purposes of press attention, ratings or morality.

She either shouldn't have been cast in the first place if they had done their ****ing research properly, or she should have been left to enjoy her time in a programme she had been paid (and isn't anymore) to do.

Now if she had expressed opinions of this ilk inside the house then that's a different matter, however I don't think it's grounds for an immediate ejection. Most housemates receive formal warnings for making controversial and potentially offensive remarks inside the house several times before they are rightfully ejected, and if this is what led to her removal then this is what should have happened first as far as I am concerned.

And really all of this can be disregarded anyway because the bottom line of it is, if she never said anything inside the house, comments made outside of the constraints of Big Brother should not be reason to remove someone from the show. We, and the producers, are supposed to judge the actions of the housemates inside the house. That is the point of the show. If you are going to eject people for things they have done and said before the show began, especially when it's as long as two years ago, then not only have you not done your research properly you incompetent, laughably useless ****ing twats, but this show shouldn't exist.

This show is a mess. A disgusting in all senses of the word, ****ing mess

On the button, Jack. Great post.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

No opinions are unacceptable under Freedom of Speech though. It's an all or nothing kind of deal. You can't dip your toes into it and get out whenever you get offended. Restricted freedom of speech isn't freedom of speech at all.

tbh

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by lostalex

They had Jimmy Saville on CBB and treated him like a superstar....

hmmm, what's worse, molesting dozens of children at psychiatric hospitals like Saville, or Tila saying a few offensive words...

Give me a break. The CBB producers are clearly in no position to judge.

That was before any of us knew anything about what he'd done.

As for Tila being put in front of the public eye for entertainment, nah...she deserves what she got.

[Saph]

[Ashsleigh]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

That was before any of us knew anything about what he'd done.

As for Tila being put in front of the public eye for entertainment, nah...she deserves what she got.

People had their doubts about Jimmy when he was still alive, but all the cases against him were quickly dropped bc little evidence.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by y.winter

Keep that truth coming
People are blinded by the potential housemates quality. Some should open a history book and learn which qualities should be praised and which not.

Perhaps you're the one that needs to read a history book to understand the sacrifices people have made so you get to enjoy the benefits of Freedom of Speech instead of denouncing it 'cus you can't handle a few uncouth old opinions. There's nothing sadder and more offensive then a person who is willing to forgo their own rights. Have some respect for the people who died for your rights.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Then you are for censorship and against Free Speech, this is a black and white issue. You're either for it or against it. There is no grey area. It's all or nothing.

Seems like it's a gray area for you though, because otherwise you wouldn't post on a forum where you can get a warning or be banned (quite rightly) for certain 'free speech' and which therefore practises censorship. I thought it was all or nothing for you?
Ever heard of the saying 'put your money where your mouth is?'

[Ammi]

...anyways it seems odd for a show who largely chooses housemates based on their controversial past, to remove a housemate because of her controversial past..would it not have been better for her to be given the chance to actually talk about it all..?...having said that though, I'm not sure that the BB house would have been a healthy environment for her if she does have mental health issues.../really don't know much about her tbh...

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Not wanting people with Nazi views in public spotlight with no apprehension is not PC gone mad.

she doesn't have nazi views.

[Ammi]

..surely there just has to be more to her removal that we're not being told..Jim Davidson was chosen because of his controversy/and racist stuff and Paddy Doherty as well, quite a controversial person and yet they both went on to win their series...

[Ammi]

..it isn't excusing her views for many people, Connie...it's more for her to have been there to explain them, talk about them etc... hasn't that always been a huge part of CBB and the celebrities they choose..