[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Eh?

He was a champion boxer. And has been in several political parties. Why would you assume that people only know him from his opinions on gays?


This gets more bizarre.

Because most people don't follow boxing outside of major fights and the general public don't really keep track of a minor MP's movements through the parties. The reason why he was notable prior to CBB were his comments on gay couples and adoption. Accept it or not, it's the truth.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Big brother set winston up and broadcast his views.
For me it's like the fireman who set houses on fire so he could put them out.

As usual an excellent post form Sheriff !!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

What do you mean by "hung up to dry?"

How should his life be affected by having these views?

You know what he meant, being overly obtuse is a good way of broadcasting that your argument doesn't have a leg to stand on.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I didn't know him full stop ....but BB "CHOSE"to highlight his beliefs ,they didn't mention anyone else's beliefs did they ?

Because that's the only reason why he's notable, dear.

Really, it's like no one thinks that Winston is accountable for his own words or actions.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Hmm, I don't really buy that.

It was his homophobia that got him attention, nobody gives a **** about anything else he's done or he'd be known for it instead.

hmmm, just a wild guess but the homless probably care. a community far more persecuted than the gays.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Because that's the only reason why he's notable, dear.

Really, it's like no one thinks that Winston is accountable for his own words or actions.

Dont patronize me .......... HE didn't say the words on the show BB did .....God is it that hard to sink in ?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Gay people, deaf people, women in general for his wanton victim blaming.

Arguably, Katie Hopkins was much more offensive to a broader cross section of society and yet she was celebrated by Emma and the producers.

Two wrongs clearly don't make a right, but there is a distinct lack of consistency.

I think Winston is a prize ass, and I would never defend his views, but if KH could get away with saying what she did, how on earth is the same privilege not provided to Winston.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

hmmm, just a wild guess but the homless probably care. a community far more persecuted than the gays.

So true,homeless have lot worse life than gays !!

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So true,homeless have lot worse life than gays !!

It's not a competition. I bet you don't even know the things that happen to gay people because of who they are...I don't know how you can compare the two really.

[jet]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Dont patronize me .......... HE didn't say the words on the show BB did .....God is it that hard to sink in ?

He displayed his homophobia on his VT so he wanted it known as part of who he was going into the house. Although he now denies saying it even though it's on tape. He's a trainwreck.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

It's not a competition. I bet you don't even know the things that happen to gay people because of who they are...I don't know how you can compare the two really.

My opinion and its as valid as yours

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Arguably, Katie Hopkins was much more offensive to a broader cross section of society and yet she was celebrated by Emma and the producers.

Two wrongs clearly don't make a right, but there is a distinct lack of consistency.

I think Winston is a prize ass, and I would never defend his views, but if KH could get away with saying what she did, how on earth is the same privilege not provided to Winston.

I've blocked out a lot of CBB15 from my memory but I'm pretty sure Emma laid into KH a bit during her eviction interview? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

My opinion and its as valid as yours

Obviously but it's quite a bizarre comparison.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

hmmm, just a wild guess but the homless probably care. a community far more persecuted than the gays.

Why are you trying to turn this into a 'who's got it worse' competition? I can only assume you're desperate and you want to take the discussion away from homophobia since you know you can't win otherwise.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Arguably, Katie Hopkins was much more offensive to a broader cross section of society and yet she was celebrated by Emma and the producers.

Two wrongs clearly don't make a right, but there is a distinct lack of consistency.

I think Winston is a prize ass, and I would never defend his views, but if KH could get away with saying what she did, how on earth is the same privilege not provided to Winston.

Well, KH isn't exactly the nation's sweetheart is she? I can't remember much of her time in the house since I found that series a bore but I think she was smart enough to at least play the game and leave her views out of it when she could.

BB brought up Winston's comments and he could have easily diffused the situation but then he just made it worse for himself.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Dont patronize me .......... HE didn't say the words on the show BB did .....God is it that hard to sink in ?

BB brought it up but he tried to justify his hate by using religion, saying that he didn't agree with it because 'the children don't get a choice' and then on top of it all he acts like a victim whilst using phrases such as 'Deaf and Dumb'.

He's a grown man, he should take responsibility for his actions, it was his comments in the VT and then after the task that sealed his fate. He could have recovered if he handled the task better.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Obviously but it's quite a bizarre comparison.

No its not bizarre at all

[Beso]

Originally Posted by LukeB

It's not a competition. I bet you don't even know the things that happen to gay people because of who they are...I don't know how you can compare the two really.

things happen to people from all walks of life, take me, i once got my head kicked in for being myself.

[Kizzy]

If it's just a random opinion on something generic then yes, if it's an opinion that represses, oppresses or suppresses an entire subgroup then no.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No its not bizarre at all

Well yes it is, you're trying to compare two communities who both had it bad so you can defend a wretched disablist homophobe creeper, it's quite awful really.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well yes it is, you're trying to compare two communities who both had it bad so you can defend a wretched disablist homophobe creeper, it's quite awful really.

Because he dared to say the words deaf and dumb Sweet Jesus !!!!

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by parmnion

things happen to people from all walks of life, take me, i once got my head kicked in for being myself.

But Gays are discriminated against, certain countries don't welcome gay/lesbian people... like Russia have you seen how they treat people because of their sexuality?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Because he dared to say the words deaf and dumb Sweet Jesus !!!!

Wow, now you're downplaying it?

Just wow.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Why are you trying to turn this into a 'who's got it worse' competition? I can only assume you're desperate and you want to take the discussion away from homophobia since you know you can't win otherwise.



Well, KH isn't exactly the nation's sweetheart is she? I can't remember much of her time in the house since I found that series a bore but I think she was smart enough to at least play the game and leave her views out of it when she could.

BB brought up Winston's comments and he could have easily diffused the situation but then he just made it worse for himself.



BB brought it up but he tried to justify his hate by using religion, saying that he didn't agree with it because 'the children don't get a choice' and then on top of it all he acts like a victim whilst using phrases such as 'Deaf and Dumb'.

He's a grown man, he should take responsibility for his actions, it was his comments in the VT and then after the task that sealed his fate. He could have recovered if he handled the task better.

threads about respectinng opinions or not dear, not homophobia. you're hatred is effecting your mind, doll.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

But Gays are discriminated against, certain countries don't welcome gay/lesbian people... like Russia have you seen how they treat people because of their sexuality?

So do a LOT more people too I can't see you campaigning for them

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So do a LOT more people too I can't see you campaigning for them

obviously, but we are not on about racism are we.. it's a bit irrelevant when you are comparing homeless people to gay people making out it's the same.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

threads about respectinng opinions or not dear, not homophobia. you're hatred is effecting your mind, doll.

I'm not the one desperate to defend a homophobe but k I'm obviously the hateful one here...

This topic has been about homophobia since the beginning, to think otherwise to to live in denial. To try to downplay the homophobia by bringing in homelessness reeks of desperation.