[Smithy]

I can’t believe Italy was seen as a disaster, we’re set to surpass them in deaths and the press seem to think the government has done a good job, it’s terrifying

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Smithy

I can’t believe Italy was seen as a disaster, we’re set to surpass them in deaths and the press seem to think the government has done a good job, it’s terrifying

What speculation is this from?

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What speculation is this from?

He Ignores the Live USA amount on CNN HD
I am shocked he can not view bigger Public data than
just us.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Smithy

I can’t believe Italy was seen as a disaster, we’re set to surpass them in deaths and the press seem to think the government has done a good job, it’s terrifying

Italy was a disaster because healthcare services crumbled and people were dying on trolleys in the hallways without medical attention... Which thankfully hasn't happened in the UK (as yet, and hopefully won't at any point).

Lots of factors play into the total deaths. The situation in London (much like New York) means that the UK will have high deaths overall, unfortunately.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Italy was a disaster because healthcare services crumbled and people were dying on trolleys in the hallways without medical attention... Which thankfully hasn't happened in the UK (as yet, and hopefully won't at any point).

Lots of factors play into the total deaths. The situation in London (much like New York) means that the UK will have high deaths overall, unfortunately.

980 Brits died in the last 24 hours. That's the worst 24 hour death toll of any European country. I mean...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Smithy

980 Brits died in the last 24 hours. That's the worst 24 hour death toll of any European country. I mean...

London is the second busiest International city in the world, the rest of the UK stats are pretty average.

And like I said, the disaster in Italy was that healthcare services were in absolute chaos which hasn't happened in the UK yet.

Also earlier projected deaths for today were 1750.

[GoldHeart]

Oh lovely more depressing news

[arista]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Oh lovely more depressing news

His Data all WRONG

[arista]

Originally Posted by Smithy

980 Brits died in the last 24 hours. That's the worst 24 hour death toll of any European country. I mean...

If only you looked at the Worldwide Updates?

You Forget USA

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

If only you looked at the Worldwide Updates?

You Forget USA

You have to take into account the size of the US population before you can draw any kind of comparison with them.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

You have to take into account the size of the US population before you can draw any kind of comparison with them.

No
it's done by Nations


His Title is Bollocks

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

You have to take into account the size of the US population before you can draw any kind of comparison with them.

I've been trying to tell arista that these numbers don't mean that much unless you scale by population size since February. He's not listening, Livia .

Even comparing Spain to Italy for example, Spain was hit harder than it looks at first glance, as they have a population of 40m compared to Italy's 60m.

The US should be "expected" to be 5x Italy/UK because they have 5x the population (not 10x Smithy ) but in part its like comparing apples to oranges... Some of the big, open states will be able to handle it much better because of "natural" social distancing (small population per square mile) whereas if you just take New York City as an example separate to the whole US, the figures are especially harsh. Nearly 6000 deaths in a population of 8 million. Although its a similar situation in London.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by arista

Bloody Smithy
Wrong

Italy:18,849
USA : 18,777
Spain: 16,353
France :13,197
UK : 8,958

Change Your Wrong Title Bitch
please

Its USA will Over take Italy

Italy is more comparable with the UK with a population of 60 million, you can’t compare it to the US because it has 10 times the population, based on the graph, the UK is forecasted to overtake Italy in terms of death

Originally Posted by arista

If only you looked at the Worldwide Updates?

You Forget USA

We’re not looking at the US because they’ve got a child for a president who is ignoring the problem.

The point was that Italy was seen as a disaster, constantly the talking point of how many deaths were there and now we’re forecast to overtake them and it’s trying to be portrayed as “it’s fine”

[MTVN]

That's always been the case in that guys graph tbf. They're interesting but different graphs tell different stories. His starting point is ten deaths for example, whereas if you have 50 deaths as the starting point then we're - just - still tracking behind Italy, as we are if you do it from the first death

This is a graph from 50 deaths

Tbh I don't think anyone has been that critical of how Italy have handled it either. Their death count is disastrous but I wouldn't blame them for that, every government is trying to do their best in impossible circumstances

[Josy]

Those stats are completely different to the cobra graphs yesterday

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

Those stats are completely different to the cobra graphs yesterday

Yes Ed Conway
the Great Money Reporter
in the Times
and on SkyNewsHD

[Kizzy]

For anyone who thinks this was totally unexpected and we has no chance of being prepared watch from 3.00 in...

Youtube video

[arista]

Bloody Smithy
Wrong

Italy:18,849
USA : 18,777
Spain: 16,353
France :13,197
UK : 8,958



Change Your Wrong Title Bitch
please


Its USA will Over take Italy

[Withano]

Originally Posted by arista

Bloody Smithy
Wrong

Italy:18,849
USA : 18,777
Spain: 16,353
France :13,197
UK : 8,958



Change Your Wrong Title Bitch
please

Its USA will Over take Italy

Are you gonna apologise for being so sassy Arista?

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Are you gonna apologise for being so sassy Arista?

Yeah Arista I want an apology

[arista]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Yeah Arista I want an apology

USA has Well Overtaken Italy.

[arista]

The point was that Italy was seen as a disaster
Yes a Shocker

And it will be Fact the USA over takes Italy
Not us.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by arista

The point was that Italy was seen as a disaster
Yes a Shocker

And it will be Fact the USA over takes Italy
Not us.

We are currently forecast to overtake them, that is the discussion of the thread, if you want to talk about the US overtaking them go make your own thread

[arista]

Originally Posted by Smithy

We are currently forecast to overtake them, that is the discussion of the thread, if you want to talk about the US overtaking them go make your own thread

No no need.

As soon as USA Over Takes Italy
its going on this thread


Its a matter of hours

[GoldHeart]

It looks like it will be 18 months till they get a vaccine, in the meantime we'll still have restrictions.

I still don't think they'll lift the lockdown till September, I don't know why June rumours are going around.