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Old 15-08-2021, 09:39 AM #126
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remember the crap that got thrown at trump when he withdrew usa troops from the turkish border? This is much, much worse than that and it is Biden's responsibility
This whole thing was started by Trump, who even wanted to invite the taliban to camp david on the anniversary of 9/11, and had to be told no.

It's an appalling thing to do to our allies, just as turkey was. Biden has screwed up too, I'm not excusing him of any blame, but the withdrawal process was started by trump.
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https://eu.usatoday.com/in-depth/new...en/4667248001/

Updated 5:47 PM GMT Mar. 17, 2021

WASHINGTON – President Joe Biden is under mounting pressure as he weighs whether to fully withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan by May 1, a deadline negotiated by the Trump administration.

The May 1 timetable is part of an agreement the Trump administration forged with the Taliban in February 2020
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This whole thing was started by Trump, who even wanted to invite the taliban to camp david on the anniversary of 9/11, and had to be told no.

It's an appalling thing to do to our allies, just as turkey was. Biden has screwed up too, I'm not excusing him of any blame, but the withdrawal process was started by trump.
oh yes it certainly was, but biden agreed with it and implemented it. He could have reversed it.

I think the situation is much more complicated than it appears. For example, 1 high ranking taliban member said women will be allowed freedoms, education etc, while another says nope. One gives a commitment to not breed terrorists another group encourages it The government is a false organisation and it has no legitimacy because thats just not the way afghanistan functions
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oh yes it certainly was, but biden agreed with it and implemented it. He could have reversed it.

I think the situation is much more complicated than it appears. For example, 1 high ranking taliban member said women will be allowed freedoms, education etc, while another says nope. One gives a commitment to not breed terrorists another group encourages it The government is a false organisation and it has no legitimacy because thats just not the way afghanistan functions
I agree it should have been reversed, but I think it's a bit disingenuous to put all this on Biden the way you seemed to. I'm not sure that reversing a deal that trump made with a terrorist organisation is the best way to avoid future terrorist attacks in the US which would have also needed to be taken into consideration.

I actually think the Turkey thing was worse - we left our Kurdish allies completely exposed to ethnic cleansing, which they have been facing most of the last 50 years.
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Commercial Planes in Kabul
can not land - due to the fighting or possible fighting


SkyNewsHD Live in Kabul.

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can not land - due to the fighting or possible fighting


SkyNewsHD Live in Kabul.
Have they got all the Embassy staff out yet?
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Biden never wanted Troops left in that nation.
From many years back.

Yes Trump set up the Meetings with Taliban
but President Biden was ready to leave, Anyway

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Have they got all the Embassy staff out yet?


No the Americans go first
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Stuart Ramsey Live in a Kabul hotel
Taliban marching (or Supporters of the Taliban)down the Street
going past his hotel.

Then the Power went out
at his Hotel.
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Lisa Nandy Labour MP (SkyNewsHD)
demands we go back?

She is a Fool.

Its too late now.



Johnson PM has confirmed from now on it is
only Diplomatic Talks

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Typical Arista calling women fools, whilst supporting Johnson.
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No This One Labour MP

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Once USA left
the rest went with them

President Biden is the one that set this up.
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No This One Labour MP

is an utter fool.
And all the other women you repeatedly call fools, are all, I'm sure, also utter fools.
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Updated 5:47 PM GMT Mar. 17, 2021

WASHINGTON – President Joe Biden is under mounting pressure as he weighs whether to fully withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan by May 1, a deadline negotiated by the Trump administration.

The May 1 timetable is part of an agreement the Trump administration forged with the Taliban in February 2020
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the rest went with them

President Biden is the one that set this up.
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Wrong

Biden, himself, was going to leave fast
Anyway


This new Date Sept 11th
was set up by Biden.

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And all the other women you repeatedly call fools, are all, I'm sure, also utter fools.

Stay on the Title of this thread
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President Ghani
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I've responded to the words written, so move along.
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I just heard on LBC that local forces have been in talks with the Taliban for weeks which is why they have offered no resistance

Why would you send troops back in now it would be a full on confrontation
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https://www.rt.com/news/532104-ghani-left-afghanistan/

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/w...for-Tajikistan

President Ghani left the country for Tajikistan
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