[Ammi]

…my OH’s father had a ring made for him once which was engraved with the nickname he had for him since he was a child because there was a specific personal meaning attached…we chose that name for one of our sons as well so yeah, it’s something that I totally associate with …Lilibet (Lili) is a beautiful name…God’s Promise…


…welcome to the world little Lili Diana….…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Its nice both her boys have given their daughter's her name. A nice legacy

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Exactly.
It really is.

…incredible to think that she would have been grandmother to 5 grandchildren now…

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The Queen is Elizabeth

Lilibet was her childhood nickname as she could not say Elizabeth

not sure using someone else's nickname as a real name is a good idea

seems very twee to me :/

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its an affectation

but then why am i not surprised

Good thing it's not your kid and therefore what you deem a good idea means sod all.

[bots]

the royals have a habit of giving their kids 42 middle names, so i thought just one, was quite refreshing

[Ammi]

…Lilibet was speculated and reported by the media as a possible name some time ago …and indeed it’s the name that’s been chosen and now the same media are reporting…OMG, no…really…!!…

…it’s really impossible to make this stuff up….except they do on a daily basis…

[Crimson Dynamo]

[QUOTE=Ammi;11055497]…Lilibet was speculated and reported by the media as a possible name some time ago …and indeed it’s the name that’s been chosen and now the same media are reporting…OMG, no…really…!!…

/QUOTE]

links to both claims?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Lilibet was speculated and reported by the media as a possible name some time ago …and indeed it’s the name that’s been chosen and now the same media are reporting…OMG, no…really…!!…

…it’s really impossible to make this stuff up….except they do on a daily basis…

I never came across any speculation like that.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by jet

I never came across any speculation like that.

Lily has been touted for months as a nod toto Lilibet. A quick google will show countless articles showing that

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Lily has been touted for months as a nod toto Lilibet. A quick google will show countless articles showing that

…yeah, I was just about to post as well that it was also speculated that the shortened version of Lily would be used only the media spelled it with a ‘y’ and it’s an ‘i’….the queen is also the first person to always approve names of any children born into the family so she would have approved any name that has been made official….obviously the media are their usual predictable selves of …oh really, how outrageous…how can we now spin this story to create this OUTRAGE….

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by jet

Indeed we will. Sickly sweet kow towing sycophancy just isn't my cup of tea.

Unless it's to the Queen

Who is just as flawed as anyone else

[jet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Lily has been touted for months as a nod toto Lilibet. A quick google will show countless articles showing that

A 'possible' nod to Lilibet by calling the child Lily, a name I see they liked, isn't the same as actually christening the child Lilibet though...and isn't she going to get 'Lili'.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

by who?

how would anyone know what a parent would call a child months in advance?

what articles?

Because parents rarely wait until after a baby is born to discuss names.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

the only one to call her by that special family name was her husband who always did so since they married.

How could you possibly know that, totally ridiculous

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by toy soldier

how could you possibly know that, totally ridiculous

because itv. Duh!!!

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

How could you possibly know that, totally ridiculous

Unless the Queens, Prince Philips and Prince Charles's official biographers are all outed as outrageous liars I'll take it they know better than me that it was his special name for her, used affectionatley only by him since the death of her father and Margaret.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by jet

Unless the Queens, Prince Philips and Prince Charles's official biographers are all outed as outrageous liars I'll take it they know better than me that it was his special name for her, used affectionatley only by him since the death of her father and Margaret.

The whole family know about the name...the public know about the name....whether Philip was the only one to use it, what does that actually matter? I'm really struggling as to why naming her Lilibet could be seen as any kind of slight.

It really is astounding that this is yet another stick to beat them with I can get the other family stuff but the birth of a child and the subsequent naming of that child is just bad taste imo and actually quite sad

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The whole family know about the name...the public know about the name....whether Philip was the only one to use it, what does that actually matter? I'm really struggling as to why naming her Lilibet could be seen as any kind of slight.

It really is astounding that this is yet another stick to beat them with I can get the other family stuff but the birth of a child and the subsequent naming of that child is just bad taste imo and actually quite sad

Didn’t one of the royals recently name there child as a tribute to prince Philip

[bots]

William and Harry referred to the queen as grandma lilibet, so the whole blinking family used it

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Didn’t one of the royals recently name there child as a tribute to prince Philip

Yep one of Andrew's girls called her baby August Philip

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

Unless the Queens, Prince Philips and Prince Charles's official biographers are all outed as outrageous liars I'll take it they know better than me that it was his special name for her, used affectionatley only by him since the death of her father and Margaret.

Can you give me a reference on that? Which biographies? Which authors? On what pages?

Because to be frank - you back up an awful lot of your points with the evidence that "a royal source said it" or "a royal biographer wrote about it" but you never actually say where. We're just supposed to accept that they did... because you say so. It's not really evidence, is it... you could say literally whatever you want followed by "one of the biographers wrote it just trust me" .

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Can you give me a reference on that? Which biographies? Which authors? On what pages?

Because to be frank - you back up an awful lot of your points with the evidence that "a royal source said it" or "a royal biographer wrote about it" but you never actually say where. We're just supposed to accept that they did... because you say so. It's not really evidence, is it... you could say literally whatever you want followed by "one of the biographers wrote it just trust me" .

I have read a lot of royal books by acclaimed authors over the years - still do - and I refer to what I read in them.
I don't have to prove what I write, and you don't have to accept what I write.
Take it or leave it, simple as that.

When I post an article, I always put up a link, ploughing through books to find certain words on certain pages is a bit of a stretch to ask....
I'm sure you can find the official Royal biographies at your local library though...just saying...

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by jet

Unless the Queens, Prince Philips and Prince Charles's official biographers are all outed as outrageous liars I'll take it they know better than me that it was his special name for her, used affectionatley only by him since the death of her father and Margaret.

This is so untrue.
Most of her dearest friends called her that in private as well.

[jet]

Originally Posted by smudgie

This is so untrue.
Most of her dearest friends called her that in private as well.

Could be, it isn't something I've ever come across. I have always read Philip was the only one to use it for a long time.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by jet

Could be, it isn't something I've ever come across. I have always read Philip was the only one to use it for a long time.

It's in every Royal biography I've seen that its a well known and.used name in the family. Since they released the name its in every article that its a "family" nickname for her

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by jet

Could be, it isn't something I've ever come across. I have always read Philip was the only one to use it for a long time.

No.
There have been loads of documentaries on the Queen, her friends and ladies in waiting called her Lilibet in private.