[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Do you know why the Billion dollar Tech Giants are not doing this?

Yep and here lies one of the problems.

Racism is engrained I think and can be a result of family heritage.

I have a friend who can be very racist, but then so were her parents.

People are taught this ****, rather than being brought up to be decent human beings. Times have changed and you have to adapt, we no longer have to sit blacks at the back of the bus or not allow them in pubs etc. Can be hard to change that if you’re from that era and been taught to hate.

It is the minority though.

Don’t get me started on black people who shout for equality, scream racism but are homophobic. Can’t have it both ways mate and your religion isn’t an excuse.... different debate that though...

But this current debate will go around and around in circles unless people are held accountable....which relies on platforms taking action.

[Ammi]

…I recall the conversations and debates about Venus and Serena and the horrendous racial abuse they would have from the crowd at times…that type of racial abuse may have become more electronic now at times and be delivered on the internet as well but it’s the actual racist attitudes that are still sadly too prevalent in our society no matter where they’re sitting and that’s what needs to be addressed and targeted…


…people bully in schools for instance…people bully in work places…people are racially abused in schools and workplaces and etc, it sadly happens and ‘avoidance’ and boycotting isn’t the answer because it doesn’t address the problem…tackling discriminatory and racist attitudes is and supporting ‘anti’ gestures when they’re practised as well…rather than opposing and trying to attach agendas that aren’t there….


…all IMO of course…

[AnnieK]

The footballers have always said it is not Political. Priti Patel said it was gesture politics. That's why they feel they can question her motives for now coming out and saying, quite rightly, how awful the racist abuse is after always sweeping away their concerns of racism in the sport initially as "gesture" politics. That's how I see it anyway.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The footballers have always said it is not Political. Priti Patel said it was gesture politics. That's why they feel they can question her motives for now coming out and saying, quite rightly, how awful the racist abuse is after always sweeping away their concerns of racism in the sport initially as "gesture" politics. That's how I see it anyway.

YOu dont think racism is political and anti-racism is political?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The footballers have always said it is not Political. Priti Patel said it was gesture politics. That's why they feel they can question her motives for now coming out and saying, quite rightly, how awful the racist abuse is after always sweeping away their concerns of racism in the sport initially as "gesture" politics. That's how I see it anyway.

I'm sure that's how most see it, but for some reason, bots thinks this bunch of 20 something year old, multi-millionaires are supporting Marxism. Which, even if they were (they aren't), sort of ignores how it's a protest against racism.

[Ammi]

…it’s also that Boris didn’t condemn the booing of taking of the knee…he’s a lip service guy…he talks the talk of making Britain great and slogans the three word slogan but he won’t condemn booing of an anti racism gesture…

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s also that Boris didn’t condemn the booing of taking of the knee…he’s a lip service guy…he talks the talk of making Britain great and slogans the three word slogan but he won’t condemn booing of an anti racism gesture…

He was pretty vocal at yesterdays briefing

Crawl back under your rock or words to that effect

[Ammi]

…sadly it took an horrendous racial abuse to happen first, which everyone is appalled at…but he had an opportunity to condemn the booing and use his voice then but he didn’t….

[Crimson Dynamo]

England captain Harry Kane says Premier League players should
continue to take a knee before matches in support of the Black Lives Matter
movement.




https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55151065

[Tom4784]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Make no mistake – BLM is a radical neo-Marxist political movement

An FBI report released in 2017 found that attacks on police in Baton Rouge,
Louisiana, and Dallas, Texas were influenced by the Black Lives Matter
movement, with 28 pe rcent of those who used deadly force against police
officers motivated by a hatred of police. An unclassified FBI study following the
Dallas cop-killing spree of 2016 that left 5 officers shot dead reported
departments and individual officers increasingly taking the decision to stop
proactive policing amid concerns that anti-police defiance fueled in part by
movements like Black Lives Matter had become the “new norm.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ical-movement/

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Make no mistake – BLM is a radical neo-Marxist political movement

An FBI report released in 2017 found that attacks on police in Baton Rouge,
Louisiana, and Dallas, Texas were influenced by the Black Lives Matter
movement, with 28 pe rcent of those who used deadly force against police
officers motivated by a hatred of police. An unclassified FBI study following the
Dallas cop-killing spree of 2016 that left 5 officers shot dead reported
departments and individual officers increasingly taking the decision to stop
proactive policing amid concerns that anti-police defiance fueled in part by
movements like Black Lives Matter had become the “new norm.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ical-movement/

The article is behind a pay wall, and nothing in the preview said anything about neo-marxism. That's the problem with google searching for BLM marxism I guess

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Make no mistake – BLM is a radical neo-Marxist political movement

An FBI report released in 2017 found that attacks on police in Baton Rouge,
Louisiana, and Dallas, Texas were influenced by the Black Lives Matter
movement, with 28 pe rcent of those who used deadly force against police
officers motivated by a hatred of police. An unclassified FBI study following the
Dallas cop-killing spree of 2016 that left 5 officers shot dead reported
departments and individual officers increasingly taking the decision to stop
proactive policing amid concerns that anti-police defiance fueled in part by
movements like Black Lives Matter had become the “new norm.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ical-movement/

as if i am gonna read this nonsense from that far right tabloid



BLM is not political

[Cherie]

Instagram say sending a monkey emoji to black players is quite acceptable

https://wtxnews.com/news-briefing/th...ays-instagram/

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Instagram say sending a monkey emoji to black players is quite acceptable

https://wtxnews.com/news-briefing/th...ays-instagram/

WHAT, HOW


which moron within Instagram HQ said that, whoever said that needs to be immediately sacked

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Platforms aren't the problem. Iin fact, in the past when I've criticised big corporations for not paying taxes, you've referred to them as job creators.

Do you think TIBB should be accountable for the constant racism on here, or is it the job of the people proudly declaring themselves alt-right, to not be racist?

Anyone could have guessed what would happen as soon as England lost. I hate the England fans and the wankery that goes along with them. We'd never see that with the cricket or rugby teams. I'm not saying that they would never be subjected to racism, because whilst proud alt-right folks exist, so will the bile they spread, but nowhere near the levels that not only is expected with the England football team, but also defended and attempted to move the blame from the racists to twitter or insta.

And there's nothing wrong with the emojis either. just more shifting of blame. No one has asked them to remove the aubergine in case it's used in grooming. Inane and stupid reasoning.

…just looking at the bib of your post and re-posting Leon and his little cousin’s personal experiences of racist language and behaviour…

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Where did I say I won’t back this team? I’ve literally said the complete opposite and how I’ve never backed an England side like this one, but it’s easy to see why some feel they don’t belong to the fanbase.

I was lucky to be at the Semi and Final at Wembley. Im not going to go into deep details , but consoling your little cousin who’s in tears and then hearing “****ing blacks let us down” etc from fully grown men and seeing all the random violence towards random black people was heart breaking to say the least. My post hasn’t come from nowhere.

…as you also said, Slim….this is not a political, it’s a human concern and it and the reality of some people’s experiences like Leon’s can only be addressed when they’re looked square in the face at what they are, when racism is recognised and labelled for what it is and not sidetracked or side stepped or diverted or etc …when racism itself is recognised as the issue and what some face on a ‘daily basis’ ….

[Cherie]

The OP is about online racism

FA said it was "appalled" by the "online racism" of the three players following the defeat at Wembley.

Nor sure why the platforms are getting a pass 5 pages in

The accounts are still active 3 days later btw

https://inews.co.uk/news/instagram-r...-euros-1103645

[Crimson Dynamo]

England's players have knelt before each of their three group stage games in solidarity
with the Black Lives Matter movement against racial injustice.

https://www.dw.com/en/euro-2020-germ...est/a-58084605

Deutsche Welle (DW) is Germany’s international broadcaster and one of the most successful and relevant international media outlets.

looks like this political message just is not getting through?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

England's players have knelt before each of their three group stage games in solidarity
with the Black Lives Matter movement against racial injustice.

https://www.dw.com/en/euro-2020-germ...est/a-58084605

Deutsche Welle (DW) is Germany’s international broadcaster and one of the most successful and relevant international media outlets.

looks like this political message just is not getting through?

Have you even read that article? It talks about how the German players and coach also support the cause. I have no idea what you even posted this trying to prove.

[Marsh.]

You're sweating from your frantic googling in support of racism.

[The Slim Reaper]

Racism isn't a political issue, it's a humanity issue. The only reason it became political was because countries, continents, kings and queens and then parties lived their lives in defence and support of the notion that people are inferior because they look different.

Anti-racists don't even exist without racists.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Racism isn't a political issue, it's a humanity issue. The only reason it became political was because countries, continents, kings and queens and then parties lived their lives in defence and support of notion that people were inferior because they looked different.

Anti-racists don't even exist without racists.

…its totally a human issue and it’s so easy to use and excuse the umbrella of ‘political’ so that action can become inaction because ‘this isn’t the time and place for political’….

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…its totally a human issue and it’s so easy to use and excuse the umbrella of ‘political’ so that action can become inaction because ‘this isn’t the time and place for political’….

The argument doesn't even make much sense. If the tories started pushing policies of wealth taxation to invest in communities, I would support that issue even though I can't stand tories (separate from conservatives), so it's even worse than inaction, because it's purely a defense. There is potential lack of agency when it comes to inaction, but when it becomes a way too defend racists and their racism, then it is a defence, which, ironically, is indefensible.

[arista]

[A man has been arrested over the racist abuse
of England players on social media following
Sunday's Euro 2020 final defeat.
Greater Manchester Police said the 37-year-old
from Ashton-Upon-Mersey was arrested
on suspicion of an offence under the
Malicious Communications Act,
after he went to Cheadle Heath police station
on Wednesday morning.]


https://news.sky.com/story/fresh-arr...llers-12355701

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

[A man has been arrested over the racist abuse
of England players on social media following
Sunday's Euro 2020 final defeat.
Greater Manchester Police said the 37-year-old
from Ashton-Upon-Mersey was arrested
on suspicion of an offence under the
Malicious Communications Act,
after he went to Cheadle Heath police station
on Wednesday morning.]


https://news.sky.com/story/fresh-arr...llers-12355701

Good news