[arista]

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[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Labour's deputy leader Angela Rayner
is facing mounting pressure to resign,
after one of her former aides reportedly told police
she was lying about her living arrangements.
In a statement, Matt Finnegan,
Rayner's former chief adviser said her
"actual" home was the property
she was living in with her
then husband,
not the former council house were she
was registered on electoral roll.
The shadow cabinet minister has
denied any wrongdoing.]

[bitontheslide]

it will be very easy to determine where she was actually living. Energy bills etc will be higher in the place she actually lived. Neighbours would see them coming and going or not, depending where they lived. Nobody will be getting fooled

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it will be very easy to determine where she was actually living. Energy bills etc will be higher in the place she actually lived. Neighbours would see them coming and going or not, depending where they lived. Nobody will be getting fooled

Ah, but wasn’t her brother living/renting in the council house, that she bought at a large discount due to supposedly living there a good while.
Reckon the council could well look into this as well.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Ah, but wasn’t her brother living/renting in the council house, that she bought at a large discount due to supposedly living there a good while.
Reckon the council could well look into this as well.

council tax is different on 2nd properties too, so if she has lied about that, that is a criminal offence. People have been jailed over council tax fraud

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[The Times says the police investigation
into Labour's deputy leader Angela Rayner
is examining several allegations and is not
limited to possible electoral law offences.]

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Sky News Text:
[The Times says the police investigation
into Labour's deputy leader Angela Rayner
is examining several allegations and is not
limited to possible electoral law offences.]

Send her ‘dawn’ guvnor …


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[bitontheslide]

there are 12 police officers investigating her now, thats a sizeable team, so i don't think they can be accused of not being thorough

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there are 12 police officers investigating her now, thats a sizeable team, so i don't think they can be accused of not being thorough

I have never liked anything about her so I hope she’s squirming in one of her properties


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I have never liked anything about her so I hope she’s squirming in one of her properties


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But what if she's innocent though, Zizu?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But what if she's innocent though, Zizu?

IF she was found to have not done anything personally wrong.

There'll be accusations then of a whitewashing of the complaint.
With some she could never win.

However as bots has stated, it appears the police are not leaving any stone unturned here.
So IF and I stress IF she's declared as not doing any criminal act.
She will be more likely innocent.

However she has clearly stated if she is found to have commited any criminal act.
She will stand down.
Plus would have to pay up too if there is any discrepancies as to any tax.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But what if she's innocent though, Zizu?

I’ll worry about that then


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[arista]

Sky News Text:
[The Daily Telegraph has the latest from an
investigation into Labour deputy leader
Angela Rayner's financial affairs.]

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

IF she was found to have not done anything personally wrong.

There'll be accusations then of a whitewashing of the complaint.
With some she could never win.

However as bots has stated, it appears the police are not leaving any stone I turned here.
So IF and I stress IF she's declared as not doing any criminal act.
She will be more likely innocent.

However she has clearly stated if she is found to have commited any criminal act.
She will stand down.
Plus would have to pay up too if there is any discrepancies as to any tax.

I just wonder what the Tory MP is hoping to achieve here? Even if she's guilty, Sunak isn't going to beat Starmer as it currently stands.

They need to be finding dirt on him, not Rayner.

But that's just me looking at it from a preservation of the current Government perspective, thankfully the Tory Government isn't seeing it that way, so we can finally be rid of them.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’ll worry about that then


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Fair enough.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there are 12 police officers investigating her now, thats a sizeable team, so i don't think they can be accused of not being thorough

…if she’s ‘guilty’ then why is a team of 12 officers needed to pursue that…it really is The Hounding of Angela Rayner…/…excerpts of the book serialised daily in your local tabloids…put a big enough team on it for long enough and you will find something….she’s there, she’s in the public sight…she’s not going anywhere and she’s no threat to public safety etc…and 12 officers are scouring every nook and every corner …?…while people who ‘are known to the police’ are out there, hurting people and …oh, there’s nothing we can do until they harm/kill…so in the meanwhile, we’ll busy ourselves with Angela Rayner ….not a great and look for the police force…(…again…)…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Fair enough.

Although …,



Stockport council and the police are understood to be reviewing whether Ms Rayner claimed a single person’s council tax discount on her former house on Vicarage Road while allowing her brother to live there.
If her brother was living at the property with her, as she claims, she would not have been eligible for the discount because there can only be one adult resident in the property.

Alongside the council and capital gains tax claims, Ms Rayner has also been accused of wrongly declaring her permanent address on the electoral register, which is an offence. After they married in 2010, she re-registered the births of her two sons giving the Lowndes Lane address as their home.

The police investigation centres on the fact that she was registered on the electoral roll at the Vicarage Road house but is alleged to have been living at her husband’s home at the time.


Angela Rayner is facing new questions (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-and-for-what/) about her financial affairs after it emerged that capital gains tax may be owed on another property.
Ms Rayner, Labour’s deputy leader, insists that a house she sold for a large profit (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...obe-explainer/) in 2015 was her main residence – which, if true, means her husband Mark Rayner should have paid capital gains tax on a property he sold the following year.
Tax experts said the couple would have had “two bites of the cherry” if neither paid capital gains tax when the properties were sold.


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[Cherie]

12 people working on this seems a bit OTT

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I just wonder what the Tory MP is hoping to achieve here? Even if she's guilty, Sunak isn't going to beat Starmer as it currently stands.

They need to be finding dirt on him, not Rayner.

But that's just me looking at it from a preservation of the current Government perspective, thankfully the Tory Government isn't seeing it that way, so we can finally be rid of them.

The Cons fear her Mock.

I'm not mad on her myself but she can be a formidable campaigner.

There's plenty dirt on him.
His wife's non dom status which they only changed once there was a more publicised attention to that.

Plus he too like Johnson had broken the COVID laws imposed on the Nation when Johnson was PM and Sunak Chancellor supporting Johnson too.
So duly was given a fixed penalty for that, like Johnson.

I can't wait to see his smug arrogant face change IF he and his band of deceitful backside crawling Ministers, with a host of his current heartless Con backbenchers hopefully get slung out of power.
When he DARES to eventually call the election rather than forcing the voters to have to wait until the likely near last minute to cast their own judgement on him and his heartless cronies.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…if she’s ‘guilty’ then why is a team of 12 officers needed to pursue that…it really is The Hounding of Angela Rayner…/…excerpts of the book serialised daily in your local tabloids…put a big enough team on it for long enough and you will find something….she’s there, she’s in the public sight…she’s not going anywhere and she’s no threat to public safety etc…and 12 officers are scouring every nook and every corner …?…while people who ‘are known to the police’ are out there, hurting people and …oh, there’s nothing we can do until they harm/kill…so in the meanwhile, we’ll busy ourselves with Angela Rayner ….not a great and look for the police force…(…again…)…

I thought that this was myself that posted this for a second.

Because I agree with every word said in this post, Ammi, you're 100% right in what you're saying.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The Cons fear her Mock.

I'm not mad on her myself but she can be a formidable campaigner.

There's plenty dirt on him.
His wife's non dom status which they only changed once there was a more publicised attention to that.

Plus he too like Johnson had broken the COVID laws imposed on the Nation when Johnson was PM and Sunak Chancellor supporting Johnson too.
So duly was given a fixed penalty for that, like Johnson.

I can't wait to see his smug arrogant face change IF he and his band of deceitful backside crawling Ministers, with a host of his current heartless Con backbenchers hopefully get slung out of power.
When he DARES to eventually call the election rather than forcing the voters to have to wait until the likely near last minute to cast their own judgement on him and his heartless cronies.

Tbh I have no real opinion on Rayner either way, it just seems unfair that she's being singled out for allegedly breaking Tax laws, when this same Government allows singers, actors, and other politicians get away with the same crime.

And I do believe that barring a complete and utter shambles scenario happening, I feel like Keir Starmer will become PM of the UK.

Whether Starmer/current Labour leading the country will be a good thing? Tbh I don't have the most confidence from what I've seen of him and his leadership of the Labour Party up to this point, but I feel like we have no choice but to take the risk on him.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Although …,



Stockport council and the police are understood to be reviewing whether Ms Rayner claimed a single person’s council tax discount on her former house on Vicarage Road while allowing her brother to live there.
If her brother was living at the property with her, as she claims, she would not have been eligible for the discount because there can only be one adult resident in the property.

Alongside the council and capital gains tax claims, Ms Rayner has also been accused of wrongly declaring her permanent address on the electoral register, which is an offence. After they married in 2010, she re-registered the births of her two sons giving the Lowndes Lane address as their home.

The police investigation centres on the fact that she was registered on the electoral roll at the Vicarage Road house but is alleged to have been living at her husband’s home at the time.


Angela Rayner is facing new questions (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-and-for-what/) about her financial affairs after it emerged that capital gains tax may be owed on another property.
Ms Rayner, Labour’s deputy leader, insists that a house she sold for a large profit (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...obe-explainer/) in 2015 was her main residence – which, if true, means her husband Mark Rayner should have paid capital gains tax on a property he sold the following year.
Tax experts said the couple would have had “two bites of the cherry” if neither paid capital gains tax when the properties were sold.


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She'll be stepping down soon if this is proven to be true.

[bitontheslide]

One of the worst things you can do from a criminal point of view is try and dodge paying council tax. Councils are ruthless in getting their money, and do regularly put people in prison

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

One of the worst things you can do from a criminal point of view is try and dodge paying council tax. Councils are ruthless in getting their money, and do regularly put people in prison

…although that’s true, I think that The Hounding of Angela Rayner is much more layered than that …it’s just that now, they feel there is something to have her step down or step out for…but she’s been in the sights for a while and long before this, hasn’t she…the ‘worst’ thing is surely calling the Tory ‘scum’…which was completely and absolutely wrong and she unreservedly apologised for …she’s an uppity working class gal and she ‘teases’ those poor Parliament men by crossing her legs/while wearing a skirt at the same time…and that’s something they don’t want to see outside of their private clubs…if she’s dodging tax, if that’s the only layer…?….then that doesn’t equate with 12 police officials investigating, this is something…(…imo…)…quite more multi layered than that…and that’s why they’ll dig and dig and dig until something is found…