[marcelloforthewin]

Marcello makes the odd sexual comment and none pg Joke and he gets called a misogynistic who hates women even though half of his friends in their are women and he clearly has alot of love for them... yet Ali actively was very open about her clear dislike of straight men but thats fine because shes a woman the double standards this series piss me off.

[BBXX]

She hasn’t said anything man hating she’s just pointed out certain behaviours that are exhibits of toxic masculinity.

[marcelloforthewin]

Originally Posted by BBXX

She hasn’t said anything man hating she’s just pointed out certain behaviours that are exhibits of toxic masculinity.

What exactly was Khaleds toxic masculinity when she picked on him for weeks?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by marcelloforthewin

What exactly was Khaleds toxic masculinity when she picked on him for weeks?

She wanted him gone ,and her plan worked .... it's as simple as that, it just took longer than she anticipated,so her game plan kept changing .

Once he was getting saved ,and once she was losing her friends in the house ,she started buddying up with him. But yeah she started the whole " Khaled is fake" BS
...which destroyed him in the end, as other housemates
started jumping on the bandwagon to slag him off . Then she did a 180 and suddenly felt " bad for him", when she instigated the whole thing.

[marcelloforthewin]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

She wanted him gone ,and her plan worked .... it's as simple as that, it just took longer than she anticipated,so her game plan kept changing .

Once he was getting saved ,and once she was losing her friends in the house ,she started buddying up with him. But yeah she started the whole " Khaled is fake" BS
...which destroyed him in the end, as other housemates
started jumping on the bandwagon to slag him off . Then she did a 180 and suddenly felt " bad for him", when she instigated the whole thing.

Exactly and some how people have forgiven her and are now acting like she didn't start this in the first place

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by marcelloforthewin

Exactly and some how people have forgiven her and are now acting like she didn't start this in the first place

Probably because she does subliminal messages with the attire she wears. She's trying to come across as some SJW with a cape, she throws in buzz words like
" toxic masculinity" ,whilst shielding herself as some victim.

She repeatedly said her group were being " picked off 1 by 1 ", but really that's just made her position far stronger
now.....and she knows this. It just means she had to
move around the chess board a bit more . And now that Lily has gone , that's pretty much handed Ali the win now.

It actually would have been fitting if Ali got evicted with Lily.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

She wanted him gone ,and her plan worked .... it's as simple as that, it just took longer than she anticipated,so her game plan kept changing .

Once he was getting saved ,and once she was losing her friends in the house ,she started buddying up with him. But yeah she started the whole " Khaled is fake" BS
...which destroyed him in the end, as other housemates
started jumping on the bandwagon to slag him off . Then she did a 180 and suddenly felt " bad for him", when she instigated the whole thing.

Like I have said...she is just full of contradictions.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Like I have said...she is just full of contradictions.

Also what gives her the right to try and police others opinions of Lily in the house ,did you hear when she said " I'm not having it " , or something to that degree . She is not Lily's mother.

And how they'd feel the " wrath of the red witch " . My goodness she wants to copyright that so badly now .

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

She wanted him gone ,and her plan worked .... it's as simple as that, it just took longer than she anticipated,so her game plan kept changing .

Once he was getting saved ,and once she was losing her friends in the house ,she started buddying up with him. But yeah she started the whole " Khaled is fake" BS
...which destroyed him in the end, as other housemates
started jumping on the bandwagon to slag him off . Then she did a 180 and suddenly felt " bad for him", when she instigated the whole thing.

Ali definitely started the issues with Khaled, and in my opinion her behaviour towards him back then was totally unjustified and unnecessary. She should never have called him out in front of the group, but should have spoken to him privately if she had an issue with him. It was unpleasant behaviour, and to me came across as cruel.

Khaled was very respectful in his conflicts with her, and handled the whole thing very graciously, considering the onslaught he encountered.

There is a certain irony that, in the end, she was basically defending him and speaking negatively about other housemates for focusing on an image of him that she created, He deserves a public apology from her, considering her very public annihilation of his character.

I’m disappointed that Khaled has gone as I think he deserved a place in the final week.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Ali definitely started the issues with Khaled, and in my opinion her behaviour towards him back then was totally unjustified and unnecessary. She should never have called him out in front of the group, but should have spoken to him privately if she had an issue with him. It was unpleasant behaviour, and to me came across as cruel.

Khaled was very respectful in his conflicts with her, and handled the whole thing very graciously, considering the onslaught he encountered.

There is a certain irony that, in the end, she was basically defending him and speaking negatively about other housemates for focusing on an image of him that she created, He deserves a public apology from her, considering her very public annihilation of his character.

I’m disappointed that Khaled has gone as I think he deserved a place in the final week.

He was definitely robbed his place In that final.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by marcelloforthewin

What exactly was Khaleds toxic masculinity when she picked on him for weeks?

I do agree with this.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by BBXX

She hasn’t said anything man hating she’s just pointed out certain behaviours that are exhibits of toxic masculinity.

Some of these people have lost their minds over Ali !!!


Gawd knows what they are gonna do when Ali isn’t on our screens anymore .. were are they gonna vent all their toxicity ??!?


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Some of these people have lost their minds over Ali !!!


Gawd knows what they are gonna do when Ali isn’t on our screens anymore .. were are they gonna vent all their toxicity ??!?


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Strictly Come Dancing for me.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Some of these people have lost their minds over Ali !!!


Gawd knows what they are gonna do when Ali isn’t on our screens anymore .. were are they gonna vent all their toxicity ??!?

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist, but just playing. Have a good day on your hols. Remember that this BB nonsense isn't real life

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist, but just playing. Have a good day on your hols. Remember that this BB nonsense isn't real life

Virtual hug


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[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by BBXX

She hasn’t said anything man hating she’s just pointed out certain behaviours that are exhibits of toxic masculinity.

This.

There’s a very clear pattern in his behaviour and comments. He’s made crude comments on Sarah dancing, tried to make “jokes” about periods, tea bags, ph levels. Gaslit Sarah after the whole chicken thing to try and make out that she was the one with the problem when he came at her first. He put his hand on Lilys throat when they were “messing around”, continued to go on about how he’s a “human ejaculator” after Ali expressed how uncomfortable she felt when they were sat in the living area during nominations and couldn’t leave until they were done.

He tried to “joke” that they kissed even after she expressed, AGAIN, that she wasn’t comfortable with that. He didn’t shut down Lily when she was drunk and their conversation got a little flirty, this man is literally 14 years her senior… ! He also commented on how he’s cheats on every woman he’s with “before they can cheat on him”, the man supports Trump… I mean, enough said at this point.

The fact that people are pointing out how it’s “worrying” that people would support Ali for calling out literally any of this while continuing to back and try and explain away any of this behaviour is what’s actually baffling to me. He’s vile.

And before anyone tries, I don’t support the crude comments Emma has made either and I’m not trying to say Ali has never done anything wrong in that house, I don’t support everything she’s ever said but she’s made very valid points and that’s why I will continue to support her and vote for her to make sure someone like Marcello doesn’t win.

[DigitalSid]

Originally Posted by BBXX

She hasn’t said anything man hating she’s just pointed out certain behaviours that are exhibits of toxic masculinity.

"Hitler didn't hate jews you guys he just hated toxic jewishness."

[Liam-]

She’s not a man hater for having opinions on men she has to interact with, if Marcello doesn’t want to come across like a misogynist, he should probably change the way he talks about women

[marcelloforthewin]

Originally Posted by Liam-

She’s not a man hater for having opinions on men she has to interact with, if Marcello doesn’t want to come across like a misogynist, he should probably change the way he talks about women

Im not just talking about Marcello though am i Dean was the exact same he seemed to hate masculine men

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by marcelloforthewin

Im not just talking about Marcello though am i Dean was the exact same he seemed to hate masculine men

Yes, because like a lot of gay men he’s obviously had bad experiences with traditionally masculine men that has forged his opinions, it’s not man hating no matter which way you try and twist it

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yes, because like a lot of gay men he’s obviously had bad experiences with traditionally masculine men that has forged his opinions, it’s not man hating no matter which way you try and twist it

Ok by that same logic

Marcello would be in his every right to say something like " I don't trust women as I've experienced gold digger bitches" , hmm somehow I don't think it would be accepted though .

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by Liam-

She’s not a man hater for having opinions on men she has to interact with, if Marcello doesn’t want to come across like a misogynist, he should probably change the way he talks about women

Spot on. it’s actually scary how people ignore the way he “jokes” about women and objectifies them but god forbid someone call him out on it and they’re a man hater.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

Spot on. it’s actually scary how people ignore the way he “jokes” about women and objectifies them but god forbid someone call him out on it and they’re a man hater.

Is this a deliberate misunderstanding of what has actually happened over this series?

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Is this a deliberate misunderstanding of what has actually happened over this series?

No actually. Are we not allowed to disagree with you and call out behaviour like he’s displayed at all?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

No actually. Are we not allowed to disagree with you and call out behaviour like he’s displayed at all?

I didn't say you weren't allowed to disagree with me... I just wondered if you were deliberately misunderstanding what has been happening all season (not just with Marcello) or if it was genuine.

If you say genuine, that's fine. Just asking.