[bots]

i don't think the tory defections to reform are a net benefit to them from a voter perspective. The last tory government is still fresh in the minds of voters

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

The Greens are odds on favourites at 8/15 to win the seat

Yes they Won.

[arista]

Anyway the LibDems
are the 3rd party

Then Reform UK

Then the Greens

[Crimson Dynamo]

A left-wing journalist pretending not to understand family voting because it
goes against his ideology.

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

Anyway the LibDems
are the 3rd party

Then Reform UK

Then the Greens

labour beat the lib dems, no? The lib dems are not relevant

[arista]

Originally Posted by bots

labour beat the lib dems, no? The lib dems are not relevant

Yes Of Course

But on this one, LibDems were not seen as much

[arista]

The Greens have only 5 MP's


LibDems have 72 MP's

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

The Greens have only 5 MP's


LibDems have 72 MP's

reform have very few MP's too

[Glenn.]

Right wing party claim cheating because they lost

[arista]

Originally Posted by bots

reform have very few MP's too

Of course, more than the Greens

[Parmy]

Is doubling your vote percentage a loss?

[arista]

Labour have 404 MP's

Conservatives have 116 MP's

LibDems have 72 MP's

Reform UK have 8 MP's

Green Party have 5 MP's

[arista]

PM Starmer says it is disappointing

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

PM Starmer says it is disappointing

Understatement of the year up to now.
He has many more to come in just over 2 months too.

[arista]

Joey
Labour came 3rd

Reform UK came 2nd

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Joey
Labour came 3rd

Reform UK came 2nd

Well that's obvious.
While being a terrible result indeed at this time.
That cannot be disputed, I myself thought it would be even worse.

Reform were 2nd too in the general election of 2024.

The really good thing for me was around 65% voted Green and Labour.
Only around 29% voted Reform.
For me, where my support is as to politics, that's a very satisfying breakdown of percentages of votes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Diversity barriers" on a lgbt etc crossing

Sums up Labour and the Greens in the UK in 2026

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

"Diversity barriers" on a lgbt etc crossing

Sums up Labour and the Greens in the UK in 2026

Well that'll upset the muslim extremists, having something gay stop them in their tracks. Someone hasn't thought this through.....

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well that's obvious.
While being a terrible result indeed at this time.
That cannot be disputed, I myself thought it would be even worse.

Reform were 2nd too in the general election of 2024.

The really good thing for me was around 65% voted Green and Labour.
Only around 29% voted Reform.
For me, where my support is as to politics, that's a very satisfying breakdown of percentages of votes.

Why are you combining green and labour? They are not bedfellows or even remotely politically close. I've been highlighting what this faction of labour stands for, and how it acts, for the last 7 years. You can check out the thread on "centrism," where I point out exactly how this brand of liberal centrism always aquices to, and fertilises the ground for the harder right.

You should combine the lab and reform votes to give a clear picture of just how dire the situation in this country really is.



Labour and reform are trying to win the same voters. Labour and greens are diamterically opposed on evey big issue

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Why are you combining green and labour? They are not bedfellows or even remotely politically close. I've been highlighting what this faction of labour stands for, and how it acts, for the last 7 years. You can check out the thread on "centrism," where I point out exactly how this brand of liberal centrism always aquices to, and fertilises the ground for the harder right.

You should combine the lab and reform votes to give a clear picture of just how dire the situation in this country really is.



Labour and reform are trying to win the same voters. Labour and greens are diamterically opposed on evey big issue

Sorry but I'm not going to waste much of my time on that statement at all.

It's actually much more than likely that many Labour voters went to the Greens in this by-election.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sorry but I'm not going to waste much of my time on that statement at all.

It's actually much more than likely that many Labour voters went to the Greens in this by-election.

You don't have to waste your time on it. Of course the green voters had to come from somewhere, that wasn't my point.

Without the greens being in the election, then the choice would have been reform, or reform lite. To pretend, or act oblivious to the fact that Starmer has gone from an avowed socialist to echoing Enoch Powel, is completely disingenuous.

It was leaked that the labour party would have preferred to lose to reform, because it gave them a mandate to continue on the same path. Labour spoke of shaking off the fleas when it came to the left, and now that hubris has guaranteed an even more authoritarian reform government to come.

Starmer is a despicable man, that has rolled out the red carpet for reform.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You don't have to waste your time on it. Of course the green voters had to come from somewhere, that wasn't my point.

Without the greens being in the election, then the choice would have been reform, or reform lite. To pretend, or act oblivious to the fact that Starmer has gone from an avowed socialist to echoing Enoch Powel, is completely disingenuous.

It was leaked that the labour party would have preferred to lose to reform, because it gave them a mandate to continue on the same path. Labour spoke of shaking off the fleas when it came to the left, and now that hubris has guaranteed an even more authoritarian reform government to come.

Starmer is a despicable man, that has rolled out the red carpet for reform.

Is it only in regards to immigration that you think Labour is "Reform-Lite" ?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Is it only in regards to immigration that you think Labour is "Reform-Lite" ?

No.

Authoritarianism
Gaza
Thralls to capital
Thralls to donors
LGBTQ+ issues
Public services

Just off the top of my head

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Is it only in regards to immigration that you think Labour is "Reform-Lite" ?

Can I ask you a question in return?

How have you gone from being all about the environment, to peddling misinformation in this thread about Goodwin and Spence, and their links to the constituency?

Don't mean to be accusatory, just genuinely interested how voters could go from green to reform.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So the foreign Urdu Green leaflets omitted trans and drug policy commitments..

who would have thunk it?

video of hypnotits getting exposed on Sky News here:https://x.com/MattCas04807118/status...585917482?s=20