[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Rape is overwhelmingly committed by men against women, usually by someone they already know, across every country and background. That’s what the actual evidence shows. Nationality isn’t some magic switch that turns people into rapists.

Pointing out Savile wasn’t to cancel anything out, it was to show how stupid your logic is. When British men rape, you call them monsters as individuals. When migrants do, you suddenly decide it’s a whole culture. That double standard is doing all the work here.

It's because it's accepted as part of many different afgahni tribes cultural beliefs. It's a completely different set of standards to the British way of life.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Rape is overwhelmingly committed by men against women, usually by someone they already know, across every country and background. That’s what the actual evidence shows. Nationality isn’t some magic switch that turns people into rapists.

Pointing out Savile wasn’t to cancel anything out, it was to show how stupid your logic is. When British men rape, you call them monsters as individuals. When migrants do, you suddenly decide it’s a whole culture. That double standard is doing all the work here.

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Rape is overwhelmingly committed by men against women, usually by someone they already know, across every country and background. That’s what the actual evidence shows. Nationality isn’t some magic switch that turns people into rapists.

Pointing out Savile wasn’t to cancel anything out, it was to show how stupid your logic is. When British men rape, you call them monsters as individuals. When migrants do, you suddenly decide it’s a whole culture. That double standard is doing all the work here.

Then again ….

[Crimson Dynamo]

oop

[Parmy]

I honestly don't understand people who defend this influx, when there is daily victims in one way or another having to bare the brunt of things it's caused.


If they were football fans they would be banned from travelling.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Then again ….

You’ve gone from evidence to headlines now.

The Spectator saying “reported to police” is doing a lot of work there. Reported is not convicted, and it’s not actual offending rates. It’s exactly the same charge vs conviction problem we’ve already been over.

Those grooming scandals were horrific, no one disputes that. But even the official inquiries said the failures were policing, councils and social services ignoring victims for years. Thousands of offenders from other backgrounds were prosecuted before, during and after those cases, but they don’t get turned into culture-wide headlines because they don’t fit the story.

You keep cherry-picking the worst cases and then pretending they represent millions of people. That’s not analysis, it’s selection bias. If we judged entire groups by the most extreme crimes, then British men, Catholic priests, celebrities, football coaches and care workers would all be “culturally prone” to abuse. That’s obviously nonsense.

Again, the double standard is the point you keep dodging. When crimes are committed by people you see as “us”, they’re individuals and systemic failures. When they’re committed by people you see as “them”, suddenly it’s culture.

That isn’t following the evidence. It’s starting with fear and shopping around for articles that back it up.

[Parmy]

He's talking to chat gp now for his answers

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Parmy

I honestly don't understand people who defend this influx, when there is daily victims in one way or another having to bare the brunt of things it's caused.


If they were football fans they would be banned from travelling.

No one is defending crime. That’s the bit you keep pretending people are doing.

Victims exist, absolutely. But blaming an entire group for the actions of individuals doesn’t protect anyone, it just lets the real failures off the hook. Policing, safeguarding, housing, social services, courts. That’s where people are being failed, not because someone crossed a border.

The football fan comparison doesn’t work either. Football fans get banned individually for their own behaviour, not because they share a passport with someone who kicked off last week. That’s the exact opposite of what you’re arguing for.

You can care about victims and still not buy into collective punishment and panic. Those aren’t the same thing, no matter how often you try to blur them.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

No one is defending crime. That’s the bit you keep pretending people are doing.

Victims exist, absolutely. But blaming an entire group for the actions of individuals doesn’t protect anyone, it just lets the real failures off the hook. Policing, safeguarding, housing, social services, courts. That’s where people are being failed, not because someone crossed a border.

The football fan comparison doesn’t work either. Football fans get banned individually for their own behaviour, not because they share a passport with someone who kicked off last week. That’s the exact opposite of what you’re arguing for.

You can care about victims and still not buy into collective punishment and panic. Those aren’t the same thing, no matter how often you try to blur them.

Football fans are banned for having the same scarf as someone who kicked of last week. Like the macca fans were. So let's ban everyone coming by boat because an unacceptable amount of them are raping children.

That's what I think should happen.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Parmy

Football fans are banned for having the same scarf as someone who kicked of last week. Like the macca fans were. So let's ban everyone coming by boat because an unacceptable amount of them are raping children.

That's what I think should happen.

You’re basically saying you’re happy to punish innocent people for crimes they haven’t committed. Well done. I knew you would get there.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Parmy

It's easier just to ask alexa to talk dirty.

Hey why are you giving me grief ?!

I just spent 15 minutes finding and uploading music videos for your benefit !!

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Parmy

He's talking to chat gp now for his answers

Was this aimed at me ??

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Was this aimed at me ??

no

and wow did it hit the mark

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

no

and wow did it hit the mark

Not really as it looks like it was aimed at me given the remark about Alexa- despite making no sense

That’s why I questioned it

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Was this aimed at me ??

No. But I did think you might think that after it was posted.

[Glenn.]

When you can’t argue with fact… DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Parmy

No. But I did think you might think that after it was posted.

What about the Alexa comment ?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Parmy

I honestly don't understand people who defend this influx, when there is daily victims in one way or another having to bare the brunt of things it's caused.


If they were football fans they would be banned from travelling.

Indeed, have you seen this only 29 years for this scum, a single mother stabbed to death on a lonely train platform with a screwdriver, her crime? finishing a shift in an asylum hotel, but yes come one come all...I am sure her child wont welcome illegals


Deng Majek begins the first day of his minimum 29-year sentence today for the murder of Rhiannon Whyte.

Majek, a Sudanese national, claimed asylum in the UK in July 2024. Three months later, he stabbed Whyte repeatedly with a screwdriver at a train station in Walsall after following her from the nearby Park Inn Hotel - where she was working and he was staying.

Judge Mr Justice Soole said the attack on the 27-year-old was premeditated and involved "particularly vicious brutality", before handing him a life sentence.

Meanwhile, Whyte's family have described living with their own life sentence because of his actions. Whyte's mother, Donna, described her as the "gentlest, softest person" after the hearing at Coventry Crown Court.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn0kpj99kegt

This person should never have been in the country, but Glenn welcomes him and now the taxpayer will pick up the bill for the next 29 years .... Glenns niece when she starts work,, Glenns family all paying tax for this scum....

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

What about the Alexa comment ?

I was asking alexa to play all the 70s and 60s suggestions whilst I was musing about the place. Nothing personal pal.

[Parmy]

I doubt Glenn welcomes him, but he's not bothered that people like him are arriving because he sees the greater good. Which is a good thing. Only not this time.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Parmy

Another person who would still be alive today had we stopped the boats, and their unchecked occupants.


https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-se...lsall-13500686

But how would the established order keep their power and wealth without immigrants?

A few lost peasants is just the price that has to be paid for the established order to keep living a life of luxery.

Ask any modern leftie that, they'll tell you it's a must for the good.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Parmy

I doubt Glenn welcomes him, but he's not bothered that people like him are arriving because he sees the greater good. Which is a good thing. Only not this time.

You keep inventing motives for me instead of responding to what I’ve actually said.
If your argument only works by putting words in my mouth, then it probably isn’t as strong as you think it is. But we both know that. It’s never been strong.

[Parmy]

Its to cwose to wast xmas to be talking about peasants.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

You keep inventing motives for me instead of responding to what I’ve actually said.
If your argument only works by putting words in my mouth, then it probably isn’t as strong as you think it is. But we both know that. It’s never been strong.

I just can't respond Glenn. You're a lost cause. Your points are baseless of fact.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Parmy

I just can't respond Glenn. You're a lost cause. Your points are baseless of fact.

No you’re right. You can’t respond. We established that a few pages ago. Probably best to walk away.

[Alf]

There's a better World to live in out there, I've seen it and lived it.

The World changed on the 11th September 2001.

As far as I'm concerned, it was by design and policy.