[30stone]

Think i'd prefer a mother and father...

[Tom]

I'm perfectly comfortable thanks , and before you edited out the "you're boring bit", talk about the pot calling the kettle black

[NettoSuperstar!]

"So what if thats my explanation? Am I not allowed to hold views that don't agree with the masses? And why should I have to explain myself anyway? Also that explanation doesn't lead to me being "closer to god" Call me narrow minded whatever, that can easily be turned back around because it takes a narrow minded person to not be able to accept the views of others. Think about it"

It is narrow minded to hold a view that has no evidence in support of it and not accept over whelming evidence against it

[ange7]

Forget it netto ...logic slides off this guy like water off a ducks back.

[Red Moon]

Can we all calm down a bit, start talking about the topic more and less about each other.

I don't want to have to close the topic, edit posts out or give out warnings.

Remember the rules - don't insult other members.

Red

[NettoSuperstar!]

Jesus also said "Seek the truth and it shall be given to you, keep on seeking and knocking on doors" (or words to that effect)...Not "heres the bible have done with the seeking bit! and just swallow whats written here till the end of time"

[Tom]

Originally posted by ange7
Forget it netto ...logic slides off this guy like water off a ducks back.

[Red Moon]

Like I said...... start talking about the topic more and less about each other.

I don't want to have to close the topic, edit posts out or give out warnings.

Red

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by 30stone
Think i'd prefer a mother and father...

Yeh but only cos thats what your used to now, you probably wouldnt care if thats what you'd known all your life if they were lovin/good parents. Better than being with an abusive family or in care for a start

[ange7]

you seem to have missed my earlier post ...

ps on topic ... roughly 1 in 10 people are gay ... statistic show that whether they are raised in a gay or a straight household the percentage is still the same. So that suggests that a child is equally likey of being gay when parented by straight parents or gay parent ie has no effect... it's genetic.
Tom your line
"Psychologists think you learn it and its in your upbringing."
is this a lie from you? did you just make this up?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Toms dissaproval of gays/gays adopting comes from what people told him when he was growing up and the bible.

[Tom]

Originally posted by ange7
you seem to have missed my earlier post ...

ps on topic ... roughly 1 in 10 people are gay ... statistic show that whether they are raised in a gay or a straight household the percentage is still the same. So that suggests that a child is equally likey of being gay when parented by straight parents or gay parent ie has no effect... it's genetic.
Tom your line
"Psychologists think you learn it and its in your upbringing."
is this a lie from you? did you just make this up?

Its not genetic don't you mean?

But anyway the thing about up bringing is a true theory. Some psychologists believe that your upbringing and social conditioning can have an effect on your sexuality, and its something decided in the very early years before you can make a conscious choice.

[Tom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Toms dissaproval of gays/gays adopting comes from what his parents taught him and the bible.

How irrelevant

Parents aren't religious and neither am I. If you're going to pass opinions like that at least get your facts straight but I'm not going to go into my personal life. And no I'm not contradicting myself and changing my story before people say that.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Tom

How irrelevant

Parents aren't religious and neither am I. If you're going to pass opinions like that at least get your facts straight but I'm not going to go into my personal life. And no I'm not contradicting myself and changing my story before people say that.

thats the reasons you gave

[Tom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

thats the reasons you gave

I didn't say parents. I said upbringing. You're implying I said that.

[NettoSuperstar!]

"My reasoning is that I come from quite a religious background and its just something I've always been told isn't right." Tom

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Tom

I didn't say parents. I said upbringing. You're implying I said that.

Whatever your just being pedantic, it doesnt really matter who told you, people did

[Tom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Whatever your just being pedantic, it doesnt really matter who told you, people did

I'm not being pedantic, I'm just saying what you are trying to pass off as a fact is wrong.

Being a smart a*se and reading into things doesn't always work.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Tom

I'm not being pedantic, I'm just saying what you are trying to pass off as a fact is wrong.

Being a smart a*se and reading into things doesn't always work.

It doesnt matter who it was it has no relavence to the argument whoever bought you up to believe that has no logic either. And you are being pedantic

[NettoSuperstar!]

Ive edited it to make you happy

[Tom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

It doesnt matter who it was it has no relavence to the argument whoever bought you up to believe that has no logic either. And you are being pedantic

If it doesn't have relevance then why imply I said that and why bring it up? I'm not being pedantic, I'm just correcting you.

[30stone]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Yeh but only cos thats what your used to now, you probably wouldnt care if thats what you'd known all your life if they were lovin/good parents. Better than being with an abusive family or in care for a start

This is true, and to be honest, no one on here can really comment on having gay parents unless they have them.

Because without having gay parents we dont know what they are like so for everyone to make judgement is a bit off...

[ange7]

Originally posted by Tom

Its not genetic don't you mean?

But anyway the thing about up bringing is a true theory. Some psychologists believe that your upbringing and social conditioning can have an effect on your sexuality, and its something decided in the very early years before you can make a conscious choice.

No mate...I mean what exactly what I wrote ... it IS genetic. That's pretty much what we've been aruging about the whole timw .... you just pick on that did you? hehe

" Some psychologists believe that your upbringing and social conditioning can have an effect on your sexuality, and its something decided in the very early years before you can make a conscious choice."
Sorry that's not even remoely true ... show me your source... I've never heard that one...... unless by "some psychologists " you mean the psychologists at your local church.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Tom

If it doesn't have relevance then why imply I said that and why bring it up? I'm not being pedantic, I'm just correcting you.

Because Im saying your reasoning is illogical, doesnt matter whether it was your parents or the next door neighbour, its all prejudice based on nothing logical

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by 30stone

This is true, and to be honest, no one on here can really comment on having gay parents unless they have them.

Because without having gay parents we dont know what they are like so for everyone to make judgement is a bit off...

I know two people bought up by Lesbians and theyve never had any great problems