[pinkmichk]

both ferraris & the teams points from germany removed & race ban for monza is what i'd like to see happen

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by pinkmichk

both ferraris & the teams points from germany removed & race ban for monza is what i'd like to see happen

nah, too harsh......this is nowhere near as bad as spygate so it shoul be same I reckon, suspended sentence and constructor points gone!

[Iceman]

ferrari decision befor 6pm apparently.

[Iceman]

Ferrari escape with no punishment! (cheers inside a bit hehe)

[James]

Ferrari escape further punishment over team orders controversy

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by James

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/

Ferrari have emerged unscathed from a hearing into the team orders controversy that overshadowed Fernando Alonso's victory at the German Grand Prix.

Team bosses were accused of ordering team-mate Felipe Massa to let Alonso pass him to allow the Spaniard to triumph at Hockenheim.

More to follow....

[pinkmichk]

meh said all i'm gonna say on the matter on twitter all i hope for is a mclaren 1-2 on the ferrari home turf

[Iceman]

We are tifosi we do what we want, we are tifosi come and sing along!

[pinkmichk]

no :P

[Iceman]

Can't wait for the race now......I've decided to switch channels that I watch it on, no more anti Schumi BBC for me

[Iceman]

Jacques Villeneuve is refusing to let go of his dream of owning a F1 team despite the FIA rejecting his bid to have the 13th outfit on the grid.

The former World Champion teamed up with Durango to apply for the 13th place on next year's grid, however, instead of filling the slot, the FIA announced on Wednesday that the 2011 grid would remain at 12 teams.

"It was considered that none of the candidates met the requirements to be granted an entry into the Championship," motorsport's governing body said in a statement. "Consequently, the allocation of the 13th team will not be granted."

Villeneuve, though, says he's not giving up and now will turn to his back-up plan, which is to purchase one of the existing Formula One teams.

"We will now return to our original plan, which was our plan B, that is to say, to takeover one of the existing teams," the 39-year-old told Rue Frontenac.

"It will probably cost more and we must ensure that we have a free hand with the team. We do not want to be with partners we would not have chosen.

"We will also see that there are contracts in place to avoid them interfering with our plans.

"For example, we have tremendous confidence in the design of our car. We want to be able to use it, not to have the old design already in place imposed on us."

"I still have to sit with my partners and establish a strategy.

"However, I am pleased that we continued to work on NASCAR. Things are going well on that side."

[Iceman]

Kimi Raikkonen is the third highest-paid driver in Formula One - despite competing in the World Rally Championship and not the flagship open-cockpit series.

The 2007 world champion's bumper pay-off from Ferrari amounts to a Ł13.1 million salary this season, just over half the Ł24.6m picked up by the man who replaced him, double champion Fernando Alonso.

Alonso is fifth in the current World Championship.

Briton Lewis Hamilton, the champion in 2008, is second and also on Ł13.1m, according to a report in El Mundo.

His compatriot and McLaren team-mate Jenson Button will earn Ł7.4m over the course of the year after jumping ship from Brawn GP, now the Mercedes factory squad, in the winter. He is fifth in the list, behind Ferrari's Felipe Massa (Ł11.5m) despite his status as reigning world champion.

Seven-times title winner Michael Schumacher is being paid Ł6.6m on his return to the top flight, the same as Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg.

Surprisingly championship leader Mark Webber comes in at 10th - his salary is Ł3.5m - while highly-rated team-mate and title hopeful Sebastian Vettel will only see Ł1.6m basic for his work this season, an amount which puts him 12th in the 26-man list.

However both Red Bull drivers are understood to be on substantial bonuses for race victories, of which Webber has recorded four and Vettel two so far this season.

Behind Ferrari (Ł49.1m) and McLaren (Ł20.5m) in the teams' driver spend are Mercedes (Ł13.1m), Renault (Ł6.5m), Red Bull and Williams (both Ł5.1m).

Hispania Racing offer the lowest salaries by some distance, with just Ł123,000 outgoing from their accounts for that purpose.

Bruno Senna, who picks up that Ł123,000 - other drivers Karun Chandhok and Sakon Yamamoto are not paid - earns roughly 200 times less than Spaniard Alonso.

The full list:

Drivers

1. Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) Ł24.6m

2. Lewis Hamilton (McLaren) Ł13.1m

3. Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) Ł13.1m

4. Felipe Massa (Ferrari) Ł11.5m

5. Jenson Button (McLaren) Ł7.4m

6. Michael Schumacher (Mercedes GP) Ł6.6m

7. Nico Rosberg (Mercedes GP) Ł6.6m

8. Robert Kubica (Renault) Ł6.2m

9. Rubens Barrichello (Williams) Ł4.5m

10. Mark Webber (Red Bull) Ł3.4m

11. Jarno Trulli (Lotus) Ł2.5m

12. Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull) Ł1.6m

13. Heikki Kovalainen (Lotus) Ł1.6m

14. Timo Glock (Virgin) Ł820,000

15. Nico Hülkenberg (Williams) Ł573,000

16. Pedro de la Rosa (Sauber) Ł410,000

17. Kamui Kobayashi (Sauber) Ł410,000

18. Vitaly Petrov (Renault) Ł328,000

19. Jaime Alguersuari (Toro Rosso) Ł328,000

20. Sébastien Buemi (Toro Rosso) Ł328,000

21. Adrian Sutil (Force India) Ł164,000

22. Vitantonio Liuzzi (Force India) Ł164,000

23. Lucas Di Grassi (Virgin) Ł164,000

24. Bruno Senna (Hispania) Ł164,000

25. Karun Chandhok (Hispania) Nil

26. Sakon Yamamoto (Hispania) Nil

Teams

1. Ferrari Ł49.1m

2. McLaren Ł20.5m

3. Mercedes GP Ł13.1m

4. Renault Ł6.5m

5. Red Bull Ł5.1m

6. Williams Ł5.1m

7. Lotus Ł4.1m

8. Virgin Ł983,000

9. Sauber Ł819,000

10. Toro Rosso Ł655,000

11. Force India Ł328,000

12. Hispania Ł123,000
Eurosport

[Iceman]

Still nothing in comparison to what Schuey got back in the day.

[James]

I was watching the 1991 Italian Grand Prix on the BBC site earlier - http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewben...and_pri_1.html

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by James

I was watching the 1991 Italian Grand Prix on the BBC site earlier - http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewben...and_pri_1.html

Not available in my area......one of the reasons I wont watch BBC coverage anymore......

[James]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Not available in my area......one of the reasons I wont watch BBC coverage anymore......

That was Schumacher's second Grand Prix, quite funny to hear him described as the 'senstational newcomer'.

[King Gizzard]

Go on son!!

[Iceman]

Bump i think practice is on now, CBA to find a stream though.

Qualifying at 1

[Iceman]

Alonso on pole, im a happy man, delighted that they got pole on the teams home ground.

[Iceman]

Button is going to either do very well and block at the start or cause a crash!

[Iceman]

What a race, lewis out, Button mucks up, Alonso doesnt do a thing wrong the whole weekend! Massa strong! vettel and Webber did okay, these last 5 races will be immense!

[pinkmichk]

snoozefest with my team suffering & eyebrows winning meh

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by pinkmichk

snoozefest with my team suffering & eyebrows winning meh

Role reversal of last race!

[Iceman]

Fri 24 September 2010
Practice 1 11:00 - 12:30
Practice 2 14:30 - 16:00
Sat 25 September 2010
Practice 3 12:00 - 13:00
Qualifying 15:00
Sun 26 September 2010
Race 13:00

This is the night race, expect this to be all over the place!

[pinkmichk]

i love singapore cant wait