[bots]

Nobody is interested in picking a new tory leader. If Sunak can stay on for a few months, that would be the best strategy for the interim.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Alarmed at that tbh and not something I saw anyone talking about before the election

Are we basically going to have a Muslim Brotherhood faction in parliament?

Just you wait until sadiq Kahn takes over from starmer next year.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Surprised Hunt kept his seat, expect he'll go for leader now and will end up against either Badenoch or Braverman

Tory vote actually held up better than I expected overall given the strength of the Reform vote share

I wouldn't actually hate Hunt as the new Tory leader. He's somewhat likeable.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[bots]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Nobody is interested in picking a new tory leader. If Sunak can stay on for a few months, that would be the best strategy for the interim.

scratch that, he has just stood down

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Alarmed at that tbh and not something I saw anyone talking about before the election

Are we basically going to have a Muslim Brotherhood faction in parliament?

The pretend face of compassionate conservatism is never far away from straying into full on racism

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Alarmed at that tbh and not something I saw anyone talking about before the election

Are we basically going to have a Muslim Brotherhood faction in parliament?

Could be
they need to take control of them

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The pretend face of compassionate conservatism is never far away from straying into full on racism

and ignoring the real threat of sectarian politics to win a fictitious culture war is why the threat exists

[The Slim Reaper]

The raghead faction, I believe they want to be known as.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and ignoring the real threat of sectarian politics to win a fictitious culture war is why the threat exists

What is the threat?

[The Slim Reaper]

Oh god, imagine if they get the HoC to smell of curry.

[Alf]

Labour 9.6m votes - over 400 seats

Reform 4m votes - 4 seats

Each labour mp represents 24,000 people. Each Reform MP represents 1m people.



Over 80 percent of the country didn't vote for this government.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The raghead faction, I believe they want to be known as.

Your fella Won Corbyn

[Crimson Dynamo]

LAURA PERRINS: "It is a truth universally acknowledged by sensible people that outright
loathing of your base is a vote loser. The Tories have learned the hard way that this is what
happens if you betray your core vote for years."

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Labour 9.6m votes - over 400 seats

Reform 4m votes - 4 seats


Over 80 percent of the country didn't vote for this government.

It's the political system we have in the UK which is anti-democratic.

We need to shift to PR.

There are some dire warnings for labour (which is insane to say after that majority).

Starmer only received half the votes he got in 2019 in his own seat.

The swing back to the right will be hard and fast unless he addresses the inequalities in society. Lab have 10 years at best to get this right, otherwise the countery will be really screwed.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Your fella Won Corbyn

His constituents won.

[joeysteele]

Votes can be near irrelevant in this now absurd electoral system we have.

Our electoral system of government is NOT about votes it's who can win the most seats only
That's why we need PR to get a fuller representation of seats FOR votes.
Not seats despite of votes.

Indeed I don't like Reform or Farage at all in any way.
However they got more votes than the LibDems yet got only 4 seats, whereas the LibDems 70+.

If some Party planned it carefully enough they could choose 326 seats they believed they could win, only contest them, win by a handful of votes in them.
Yet be the government under this ridiculous voting system.

Just as in a seat, you get an MP elected, like the Labour one in Liz Truss's seat.
Where he got around 11,000 + votes.
She got a few hundred less.
The 3rd placed candidate had around 10,000.

He didn't even get a third of the votes yet he is MP with all those votes against him.
Under this ridiculous voting system.

All that matters is he got the highest number of votes.
To get the seat.

What's really democratic about that !!!!

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

His constituents won.

Sure

[arista]

[The Slim Reaper]

So close. Wes had the whole party machine behind him to take on an independent candidate with nothing.

[arista]

[Welsh Secretary David Davies,
Culture Secretary Lucy Frazer,
Science minister Michelle Donelan,
Education Secretary Gillian Keegan and
Justice Secretary Alex Chalk were beaten
during a traumatic night for the Tories.
Altogether at least 16 ministers have gone,
with Johnny Mercer and Therese Coffey beaten by Labour.

Jacob Rees-Mogg also tumbled
in North East Somerset and Hanham.]

And Liz Truss has gone

[bots]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

So close. Wes had the whole party machine behind him to take on an independent candidate with nothing.

are you seriously trying to suggest the independents weren't funded by organisations?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

are you seriously trying to suggest the independents weren't funded by organisations?

Which organisations were they funded by?

Even with funding, to set up a campaign in a few weeks to tackle a (now) cabinet minister in his own seat and get within a few hundred votes is ridiculous.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Which organisations were they funded by?

Even with funding, to set up a campaign in a few weeks to tackle a (now) cabinet minister in his own seat and get within a few hundred votes is ridiculous.

I don't know that it is these days, I think the next GE (or two) is going to see a surge in indy MP's being elected tbh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

3rd lowest turnout since 1918