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Old 18-09-2023, 01:12 AM #1
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The language is very extreme from Starmer imo.

Illegal Immigrants trying to build a better life for themselves and their families shouldn't automatically be treated the same as Terrorists.

I personally don't agree with Illegal Immigration unless under the most extreme cases, but the language here is typical modern day Political extremism.


No, it's the Criminal Smugglers
are what Starmer will call Terrorists
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it's pretty obvious now that Starmer is just going to say anything to try and get the votes

It worked for Boris in the brexit vote so the strategy isn't a stupid one. It's more a reflection on politics today.

It also wouldn't surprise me if he starts a chorus of "lock him up" against Sunak

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it's pretty obvious now that Starmer is just going to say anything to try and get the votes

It worked for Boris in the brexit vote so the strategy isn't a stupid one. It's more a reflection on politics today.

It also wouldn't surprise me if he starts a chorus of "lock him up" against Sunak


Yes fair points,
Starmer
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Every time he opens his mouth, he wipes out any ounce of respect they’ve managed to get since the last time he said something stupid, it’s practically a superpower at this point
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BBC News Text:
[Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer plans to seek
a "major rewrite" of Britain's Brexit deal
if his party wins the next general election.
In an interview with the paper,
Sir Keir says the current deal the UK
has with the bloc is "too thin"]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66839501




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[The news that Unite, Labour's biggest union supporter,
will launch campaigns in "red wall" areas
to try and urge the party to launch "more radical"
policies in areas such as energy,
steel and green jobs.]




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Starmer is in Paris
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everyone knows that giving the tories another term in office would all but end our democracy, but the thought of Starmer in charge is not a pleasant one
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Starmer is no leader, he's like a rabbit in the headlights on most things, and seems pretty clueless on the whole.
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The man has been gifted a once in a 100yr opportunity as a labour leader, because the next election is all about the tories. He could say he wants to shoot thine king if he gets power, and he'd still win. Instead of using that opportunity to make drastic changes away from the disaster of the last 13 years, he insists on toeing the line and keeping their policies, to appease his corporate and media paymasters.
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The man has been gifted a once in a 100yr opportunity as a labour leader, because the next election is all about the tories. He could say he wants to shoot thine king if he gets power, and he'd still win. Instead of using that opportunity to make drastic changes away from the disaster of the last 13 years, he insists on toeing the line and keeping their policies, to appease his corporate and media paymasters.
Do you think Wes would do better? I am going off him a bit, truth be told. But as much as the left and right hate centralist's, i dunno. Maybe he wouldn't be a disaster.

I am against his privatising certain parts of the NHS, which is failing miserably under the Tories. However, the more i read from the Wes, his "person of the people" shtick is dwindling fast.

Personally, i think some common sense and understanding is needed. There is none. And us idiots, left, right, central keep arguing to the point now where we couldn't possibly unite.

We need a revolution, but it's never gonna happen in our lifetimes
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Do you think Wes would do better? I am going off him a bit, truth be told. But as much as the left and right hate centralist's, i dunno. Maybe he wouldn't be a disaster.

I am against his privatising certain parts of the NHS, which is failing miserably under the Tories. However, the more i read from the Wes, his "person of the people" shtick is dwindling fast.

Personally, i think some common sense and understanding is needed. There is none. And us idiots, left, right, central keep arguing to the point now where we couldn't possibly unite.

We need a revolution, but it's never gonna happen in our lifetimes
It's always been a facade. That's the danger of these labour politicians, they don't really stand for anything. Wes loved Jeremys policies until the media started hitting him, now he loves starmers tory policies, if Starmer were to lose and it was someone else in charge, he'd love their policies. A man blinded by his own ambition to be leader, means that he stands for whatever he thinks will advance himself more.

I tried to warn you about this dude
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After the General Election
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he is going back to 2030 original Sunak plan
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After the General Election
if Starmer Wins
he is going back to 2030 original Sunak plan
As I keep saying
It's not really a drastic change either returning to the 2030 position or just going with Sunak's now non event of a change.

I am livid with Starmer, everytime he says something I just groan..
Because I do agree with Slim, that he has been it seems gifted with a great chance to really change things bigtime.

I want this sickening government out.
For the NHS, the poorest, most vulnerable and sick and disabled.
I really am disappointed with the now likely policies that Starmer will present.
That disappointment at that however will be nothing as compared to thinking this rotten FROM the core current Con Party possibly winning again.

Anything that now gets them out is desirable to me.
I will however be very irritated at just what more Labour could have been really setting out to do with this chance at their feet.
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"Some" Labour MP's
are saying PM Sunak may call a General Election
in November?


Some Better Labour MP's say it could be
May Next Year
the same day as Local Elections
May 2024

Ref: SkyNewsHD/ BBC Newscast

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