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smudgie · 28-01-2021, 04:36 PM

Hmmm sounds like the Germans are after getting rid of the oldies then

AnnieK · 28-01-2021, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

Right .. please see my reply above ..

There’s apparently nothing to worry about health wise it’s more to do with how much protection it offers us oldies ..

AstraZeneca are saying that they are 100% confident that their vaccine will indeed protect all ages ...

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Thanks Zizu

Zizu · 28-01-2021, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Bad tests they (Germans)did.

It’s not the Germans testing apparently ..
It’s just their scientists are saying that AstraZenica didn’t test enough over 65s so there isn’t enough data available to GUARANTEE the vaccine will provide sufficient protection for over 65s

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arista · 28-01-2021, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

It’s not the Germans testing apparently ..
It’s just their scientists are saying that AstraZenica didn’t test enough over 65s so there isn’t enough data available to GUARANTEE the vaccine will provide sufficient protection for over 65s

But AstraZeneca say thats not true

arista · 28-01-2021, 05:09 PM

Crazy relatives
entered a Surrey Hospital
to take out a Covid-19 infected old man.

One Punk said to the Doctor
do you have "power of the attorney"
The Doctor said he would die
without Oxygen.

Security got there in the end
and removed them.

arista · 28-01-2021, 05:50 PM

[COVID-19: More countries added to UK travel 'red list'
There will also be a ban on direct flights from the UAE,
which is made up of seven emirates
including Abu Dhabi and Dubai.]

[From 1pm on Friday, non-British or Irish passengers
who have been in or transited through those
countries in the last 10 days will no longer
be granted access to the UK.
British and Irish nationals, or other nationals
with residence rights in the UK,
will still be able to enter the country
but will have to self-isolate for 10 days at home.
They will not have the option to reduce their
isolation period with a negative COVID test.
Image: Non-British or Irish passengers from
the three countries will no longer
be granted access to the UK
Any travel exemptions usually in place,
including for business travel, will not apply.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...-list-12201587

bitontheslide · 28-01-2021, 06:12 PM

A mother whose baby survived E-coli infection, sepsis and Covid-19 after being born at 1lb 11oz has described him as "our little warrior".

Sheree Murray was 25 weeks pregnant when she gave birth to Archie, who weighed just 765g, on 1 December.

At five weeks old Archie had an E-coli infection which led to sepsis, and a week later his parents were told he had tested positive for Covid-19.

He had to go into isolation for 10 days which "felt like an eternity".

Archie was unable to breathe when he was born and Ms Murray said she and his dad Robert Edwards, 21, were "so scared" as medics "worked on him for 40 minutes".

His parents could not touch him for four days, but Ms Murray said when she could first hold his hand it was the "most magical moment I had ever been in".

The 21-year-old, from Colne in Lancashire, has since spent every day at Burnley General Hospital where the neonatal nurses have "helped so much".

Ms Murray said she was "devastated" when Archie was diagnosed with coronavirus because the "killer virus was taking the healthiest people and my baby was so poorly".

"It absolutely terrified me," she added.

Ms Murray said when she could hold Archie again after his 10 days in isolation "it felt like I was finally able to breathe".

"It felt like I was on cloud nine," she said.

Archie now weighs 3lb (1.36kg) and is doing "better than ever before", his mum said.

His parents are only allowed to visit him at the hospital separately because of the pandemic.

He was named Archie Terry Marcel Edwards - Terry after his late-grandfather and Marcel because it means "little warrior".

Ms Murray said family and friends had been supportive and while she "still had bad days, that was to be expected".

"I feel like I could burst with happiness I am that proud of him," she said.

"Words could never explain how much I am looking forward to bringing him home."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-55840222

arista · 28-01-2021, 06:36 PM

Zizu · 28-01-2021, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

But AstraZeneca say thats not true

Sky reported earlier that of all the data / research provided by AZ - across all ages - the data for 55 years olds and ABOVE only amounted to around 8% of that data .

German scientists maintain that simply isn’t enough to guarantee that the AZ will protect over 65s anything like adequately..

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Cherie · 28-01-2021, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

Sky reported earlier that of all the data / research provided by AZ - across all ages - the data for 55 years olds and ABOVE only amounted to around 8% of that data .

German scientists maintain that simply isn’t enough to guarantee that the AZ will protect over 65s anything like adequately..

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I have seen this claim rebutted ..who to believe Germany with their expensive vaccine or ....interesting that the EMA seem to be dismissing this claim as well?

Nicky91 · 29-01-2021, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie

Hmmm sounds like the Germans are after getting rid of the oldies then

no, why would you even want to vaccinate with something you don't know much about

safety first

Cherie · 29-01-2021, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

no, why would you even want to vaccinate with something you don't know much about

safety first

It’s a mystery why the EU will go to court to get it then

Nicky91 · 29-01-2021, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

It’s a mystery why the EU will go to court to get it then

to run tests ourselves on it

number of vaccinated in netherlands: 200k

with many doses still laying in the fridge, not being used

Cherie · 29-01-2021, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

to run tests ourselves on it

number of vaccinated in netherlands: 200k

with many doses still laying in the fridge, not being used

Why is that? Poor take up?

Nicky91 · 29-01-2021, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

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Why is that? Poor take up?

no they are good quality

but not enough also for second doses, what they rather wait for here

Cherie · 29-01-2021, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

no they are good quality

but not enough also for second doses, what they rather wait for here

Oh right

Nicky91 · 29-01-2021, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Oh right

UK: 7.3 million vaccinations

NL: 200k vaccinations

again that dutch doctor in london hospital at Jinek last night, whom informed us with vaccination numbers and also fact that one dose provides some form of protection (not immunity but at least a lower chance you ending up on ICU)

our chairman of care workers Ernst Kuipers said we need to speed up the vaccinations now, and also at least giving one dose to a larger group of people, so we can get out of lockdown, curfew for a short while again to work on economy without risk of too many patients on ICU

Nicky91 · 29-01-2021, 08:59 AM

but Kuipers is not the one who decides this, more the RIVM and demissionary government

arista · 29-01-2021, 09:17 AM

arista · 29-01-2021, 09:18 AM

arista · 29-01-2021, 10:46 AM

Great News
The Student who set up the Manchester Snowball Fight
is to be Fined £10,000.
And his mate.

And one of those Punks
set up an illegal gathering before
and was fined.

I would put their faces Front Page
tomorrow

AnnieK · 29-01-2021, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

Great News
The Student who set up the Manchester Snowball Fight
is to be Fined £10,000.
And his mate.

And one of those Punks
set up an illegal gathering before
and was fined.

I would put their faces Front Page
tomorrow

Leeds, not Manchester

Nicky91 · 29-01-2021, 12:58 PM

Janssen vaccine protects up to 66%

that is the result after tests on 45.000 people

netherlands themselves ordered 11.3 million of those

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsb...ls/ar-BB1dd5bE

arista · 29-01-2021, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Leeds, not Manchester

Was he not a Manchester student?

arista · 29-01-2021, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Janssen vaccine protects up to 66%

that is the result after tests on 45.000 people

netherlands themselves ordered 11.3 million of those

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsb...ls/ar-BB1dd5bE

Single dose Covid vaccine 66% effective
I like its Single Dose - Nicky

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55857530

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