[Firewire]

fandoms are so annoying omg hate tumblr

[Shaun]

i just called my cat a good girl OMG

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Shaun

i just called my cat a good girl OMG

YOU ****ING MONSTER

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Shaun

i just called my cat a good girl OMG

you white privileged son of a bitch

[Me. I Am Salman]

[Shaun]

I'm glad you've raised this Linda

[lily.]

It's not a typo though.. it's just a Deanism.

[Marsh.]

"It doesn't affect you."



One of the worst excuses ever used on the internet.
If you're going to make judgements on terms/labels/language people use then yes, it includes everybody.

You want things changed down to the slightest description just for the sake of it, or in some vain attempt to please a minority group and then don't listen to the counter arguments but respond with "But it doesn't affect you".

If I get leaped on for daring to suggest someone with a penis is a male or an action man is a boy's toy then yes it does affect me.

[Niall]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

"It doesn't affect you."



One of the worst excuses ever used on the internet.
If you're going to make judgements on terms/labels/language people use then yes, it includes everybody.

You want things changed down to the slightest description just for the sake of it, or in some vain attempt to please a minority group and then don't listen to the counter arguments but respond with "But it doesn't affect you".

If I get leaped on for daring to suggest someone with a penis is a male or an action man is a boy's toy then yes it does affect me.

Well actually, campaigns for alternative titles and pronouns will not affect in the slightest if you identity with the sex you were assigned with at birth.

No-one is stopping you from referring to either of those things in that manner either. All that's needed really is more widespread recognition and teaching that that is not the status quo..

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niall

Well actually, campaigns for alternative titles and pronouns will not affect in the slightest if you identity with the sex you were assigned with at birth.

No-one is stopping you from referring to either of those things in that manner either. All that's needed really is more widespread recognition and teaching that that is not the status quo..

Of course they aren't.

[Vicky.]

As a person with a vagina, I fully agree with you marsh

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

As a person with a vagina, I fully agree with you marsh

My penis thanks you for your support.

[Apple202]

if the strongest reason you can come up with as for not providing an X gender option is that it will upset your way of seeing everyone as either male or female and therefore it's not fair on you then really that just proves the point that it truly doesnt affect you

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Apple202

if the strongest reason you can come up with as for not providing an X gender option is that it will upset your way of seeing everyone as either male or female and therefore it's not fair on you then really that just proves the point that it truly doesnt affect you

Where did I say it's "not fair"?

I'm saying the "issue" of what terms are and are not acceptable involves everybody. You can't strive to present equality for a minority group of people and then tell others it's nothing to do with them.

If you have a problem with the terms I use then it's a debate I am rightly a part of.

When an issue is about language it includes everybody.

[Apple202]

btw i hope u guys realise that the pet post was created by a troll account...

[Niall]

I mean honestly say what you like about this being a 'first world problem' or 'attention seeking', but when you get down to it what harm is it actually doing? None. Absolutely none. It's doing the exact opposite if anything.

This is what it irks me to see people get all irritated with progressive gender attitudes and campaigns. The binary system does more harm than good, and complaining about other people trying to broaden it a little just reinforces that. It's ludicrous.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Niall

I mean honestly say what you like about this being a 'first world problem' or 'attention seeking', but when you get down to it what harm is it actually doing? None. Absolutely none. It's doing the exact opposite if anything.

Portraying anyone considered a social activist, or queer or trans, as a deeply irrational arsehole who makes up tonnes of words and phobias and launches attacks on something so trivial as happy meal toys? I genuinely consider this whole thing damaging to LGBT movements. It just makes us look hysterical and there's no science behind it at all. (Granted, psychoanalysis is still in the early stages and I'm sure some study in 5 years will prove me wrong)

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Portraying anyone considered a social activist, or queer or trans, as a deeply irrational arsehole who makes up tonnes of words and phobias and launches attacks on something so trivial as happy meal toys? I genuinely consider this whole thing damaging to LGBT movements. It just makes us look hysterical and there's no science behind it at all. (Granted, psychoanalysis is still in the early stages and I'm sure some study in 5 years will prove me wrong)

thank you.

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Portraying anyone considered a social activist, or queer or trans, as a deeply irrational arsehole who makes up tonnes of words and phobias and launches attacks on something so trivial as happy meal toys? I genuinely consider this whole thing damaging to LGBT movements. It just makes us look hysterical and there's no science behind it at all. (Granted, psychoanalysis is still in the early stages and I'm sure some study in 5 years will prove me wrong)

I absolutely agree.

[Smithy]

salman look at what you've started

[Niall]

Well at least it's an argument over something that matters rather than the quality of [insert popstar name here]'s music or something

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Niall

Well at least it's an argument over something that matters rather than the quality of [insert popstar name here]'s music or something

lets not, mr former rihanna stan

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Smithy

lets not, mr former rihanna stan

WE DON'T SPEAK OF THAT

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Niall

WE DON'T SPEAK OF THAT

Whatever you say niall

[Firewire]

Such a minor issue seems to have cause such a stir