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Kizzy · 08-07-2014, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Verbal

So Ashleigh doesn't insult people's looks? Doesn't try to isolate other? She's not been aggressive? Ashleigh's been a ray of sunshine?

Do you even watch the show, or do you turn the sound down and just swoon over 'the 18 year old' ?

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There are dozens of examples, I just really can't be bothered to go through them all.

I had to turn the sound right up cos the snidey little cow was just whispering most of the time, because she hasn't got the bottle to voice her opinions to anyone other than her lap dog, Danielle.

Agreed, some are just blindsided by the fact she looks like a disney princess

Northern Monkey · 08-07-2014, 10:27 AM

Nothing wrong with what Ashleigh tried to do,It was a valliant attempt to try and thin out the numbers of the cool gang and no-one else has had the courage or where with all to even attempt it.She's working solo and she did extremely well to even out fox Helen and get Ash up(which she did),It's not her fault the public did'nt help her.She needs an ally or two in there to pull it off or atleast for the public to have the brain capacity to understand what she was trying to do and back her up.It was a fair effort from her.Well done Ashleigh!

Beso · 08-07-2014, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Nothing wrong with what Ashleigh tried to do,It was a valliant attempt to try and thin out the numbers of the cool gang and no-one else has had the courage or where with all to even attempt it.She's working solo and she did extremely well to even out fox Helen and get Ash up(which she did),It's not her fault the public did'nt help her.She needs an ally or two in there to pull it off or atleast for the public to have the brain capacity to understand what she was trying to do and back her up.It was a fair effort from her.Well done Ashleigh!

Jake. · 08-07-2014, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Agreed, some are just blindsided by the fact she looks like a disney princess

Or just don't like the fact that Helen is a flaming *******

Verbal · 08-07-2014, 12:22 PM

Any latecomers to this thread can just read the first 4 pages and skip the rest, it's all the same people talking absolute rubbish on repeat

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kefln · 08-07-2014, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da

Nope. Helen has gone far further than that. And you know it. She has insulted people's looks, attempted to isolate others, abused the powerful position she's in, been aggressive to the point that it looks like something violent could happen and in general just been a deeply unpleasant person. She seems to think, like you, that there's some double standard, and that they attack her because she's got a shrieking voice. The truth that she's just 10 times more odious than anyone else in there is something she cannot admit to herself. And one of the reasons she can't is because of the ****ing drips in there who hang on to her every word.

Well said.

It doesn't matter how well you make a point, or how many samples you bring up, the is no resolving the "Helen V Ashleigh" debate.

The problem is that some see Helen's behaviour as entertainment. Both inside the house and by the viewers. While Ashleighs behaviour is been vilified despite the fact that she is essentially a polite young woman, who only "b*tches" to her friend.

Its an interesting deflection process. Ignore the very bad bahaviour of one person and over fixate on the minor discretions of another. And you can't argue against it, because it has a "digging in" effect.

Its a little like Helen's nomination of Ashleigh. Everything that she said is a mirror of her own behaviour. Yet she can't see it, as she see's herself as entertaining, so she blames it all on Ashleigh.

Miranda123 · 08-07-2014, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

She has done it all through the show, she picks on the weak housemates or the housemates who have a problem with other housemates..she has done this with dannielle, jale, Christopher,chris,mathew and is now doing it with Ashleigh.

typical bully's behaviour.

get the blue waffled minge out please.

Poor poor Ashleigh lol

last week she was an Evil genius, lol make up your mind folks

lets just agree, that she is a prissy little madam who needs to know her place, and leave it at that

HELEN TO WIN!!!

Miranda123 · 08-07-2014, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake.

Or just don't like the fact that Helen is a flaming *******

Seeing the ugly crying mush on your post, Im assuming you're still flogging the dead horse that is a Toya/Ashleigh win

lololol

Miranda123 · 08-07-2014, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Nothing wrong with what Ashleigh tried to do,It was a valliant attempt to try and thin out the numbers of the cool gang and no-one else has had the courage or where with all to even attempt it.She's working solo and she did extremely well to even out fox Helen and get Ash up(which she did),It's not her fault the public did'nt help her.She needs an ally or two in there to pull it off or atleast for the public to have the brain capacity to understand what she was trying to do and back her up.It was a fair effort from her.Well done Ashleigh!

She did try.....and FAILED MISERABLY lol

kefln · 08-07-2014, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Miranda123

Poor poor Ashleigh lol

last week she was an Evil genius, lol make up your mind folks

lets just agree, that she is a prissy little madam who needs to know her place, and leave it at that

HELEN TO WIN!!!

And people say that irony is a lost art

Miranda123 · 08-07-2014, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

I think the point is that she doesn't care. Just how she struggles to see a line she shouldn't cross in arguments getting her the warnings. She just doesn't give a damn, that's part of her problem.

And the main reason she is a great housemate!!

Helen to WIN!!!

Miranda123 · 08-07-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong

Good point. She can't be nominated and can't be voted out. No wonder she's a mouthy aggressive gob****e.

i think we all know Helen wouldnt have been any different

Good on the BB team for making sure we got to see the very best of her

And good on them for putting in a nasty little madam who was available to get OWNED!!!!

Miranda123 · 08-07-2014, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..hmm, so in a group situation in something like a playground..the group sitting around and mocking people’s appearance/calling names/insulting an individual and the rest of the group smiling or just sitting there and being part of it is the same thing and on the same level as someone letting off steam to a friend or ‘confidante’ about what they think about that group of people for what they’re doing and how they make people feel with their ‘honesty’....in that playground situation, no it wouldn’t be at all and nor should it.....most people 'bitch' but most people don't think they have the right to insult people to their faces with such arrogance and disregard for anyone's feelings ....

most people do bitch, at some points in their lives

Ashleigh bitches ALL the time, its the only thing we know her for, and unlike the fantasy (that she hasnt been shown being nice by BB producers) its obvious that she has NEVER said anything nice about anyone, and therefore it cannot be shown cause it never happened

She said in her audition tape that a lot of people HATE her.................no shock there lol

Miranda123 · 08-07-2014, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal

I think it is quite a good analogy that explains how they both are to be honest.

Well said Verbal.......are we making a **** load of sense or what!!!!

HELEN TO WIN!!!

Miranda123 · 08-07-2014, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong

When Ashleigh gets hauled into the diary room and warned twice for bullying behaviour and told one more strike and she's out, then she'll be worse.

Until that time Helen is worse.

But we LOVE that!!!

HELEN TO WIN!!!

Verbal · 08-07-2014, 02:18 PM

Miranda is on a mission in this thread

Miranda123 · 08-07-2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake.

Helen's the typical playground bully, I for one wouldn't have her mimick my accent either (which she's done plenty of times).

Impersonation of peoples accents: See every time Ashleigh opens her sh.t filled gob to slag someone off!

Poor poor Ashleigh lololol

If you cant take it, dont dish it out!!!

Miranda123 · 08-07-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal

Miranda is on a mission in this thread

Im always on a mission Verbal lol

They dont always work but they have every week with

Pauline OUT
Toya OUT
Matthew OUT

Did I forget anyone?

It reminds me of that McDonalds song.....................I'M LOVING IT!!!

Miranda123 · 08-07-2014, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

They were actually friends with Kim until she disappeared up Helens arse

Im surprised at this post Niamh, youre normally very accurate

They were friends with Kim but as soon as she had the audacity to talk to someone other than the nasties Ashleigh & Toya, they cut her loose and started slagging her off too, in fact more than they were about Helen

So in essence, if Kim had stuck her head up Toyas arse the way Ashleigh did, all would have been fine, because she chose to mix with everyone, she was excommunicated by the dressing gown gang!!

And when Ashleigh & Toya then saw (from the stairs) that Danielle was having a chat with Kim, Ashleigh told Toya that would like to kick the **** out of danielle for doing so

Maybe Kim is now of the opinion (with some help from Ashleighs behaviour) that Helen's arse is a much nicer place to put your head than up Toya's or Ashleighs

And I for one, agree with her

Achilles · 08-07-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Miranda123

most people do bitch, at some points in their lives

Ashleigh bitches ALL the time, its the only thing we know her for, and unlike the fantasy (that she hasnt been shown being nice by BB producers) its obvious that she has NEVER said anything nice about anyone, and therefore it cannot be shown cause it never happened

She said in her audition tape that a lot of people HATE her.................no shock there lol

We only see about 4-6% of footage each day. Big Brother choose what footage we see.

Miranda123 · 08-07-2014, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles

We only see about 4-6% of footage each day. Big Brother choose what footage we see.

and they have had NO choice but the show Ashleigh bitching cause that is all she does.....................end of

rusticgal · 08-07-2014, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Nothing wrong with what Ashleigh tried to do,It was a valliant attempt to try and thin out the numbers of the cool gang and no-one else has had the courage or where with all to even attempt it.She's working solo and she did extremely well to even out fox Helen and get Ash up(which she did),It's not her fault the public did'nt help her.She needs an ally or two in there to pull it off or atleast for the public to have the brain capacity to understand what she was trying to do and back her up.It was a fair effort from her.Well done Ashleigh!

....precisely.