[Shaun]

Is it true all of the victims were singled out for looking middle-eastern as well?

Saw something about him being obsessed with that Breivik guy from Norway.

[Jack_]

So is this not terrorism now? Or is it cause he's brown? What's the main factor in defining it, being a Muslim or brown?!?!

Cause Jo Cox's murderer wasn't a terrorist even though he was. Be interesting to see the narrative won't it

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Jack_

So is this not terrorism now? Or is it cause he's brown? What's the main factor in defining it, being a Muslim or brown?!?!

Cause Jo Cox's murderer wasn't a terrorist even though he was. Be interesting to see the narrative won't it

It's more to do with the victims I think... it's still technically classed as terrorism but it's that other "meh, whatever then" terrorism that happens when the victims aren't wEuropean or American (Canadian, Australian, etc.).

You know, like when schools get massacred in the Middle East and people say "Aw shame did you see EastEnders last night?" "That" sort of terrorism.

[Alf]

Multiculturalism hasn't failed, It's Islam that's failed.

There's no problem with Sikhs, Jews, The Irish or anyone else, the problem is Islam.

And that's been brought about by political correctness, instead of encouraging them to be British and feel proud to be British and class themselves as British, we've told them that their culture is equal to ours, which is just so not true, the reason they come here in the first place is to get away from that barbaric culture.

Political Correctness is killing The West, and we need some leadership to stop this, although I fear it may be too late to sort it out peacefully.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Alf

Multiculturalism hasn't failed, It's Islam that's failed.

There's no problem with Sikhs, Jews, The Irish or anyone else, the problem is Islam.

And that's been brought about by political correctness, instead of encouraging them to be British and feel proud to be British and class themselves as British, we've told them that their culture is equal to ours, which is just so not true, the reason they come here in the first place is to get away from that barbaric culture.

Political Correctness is killing The West, and we need some leadership to stop this, although I fear it may be too late to sort it out peacefully.

Yep, tolerating this ridiculous superstition is one of the root causes

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yep, tolerating this ridiculous superstition is one of the root causes

France is one of the most secular, heavily non-religious (often anti-religious) places in the world and has very low tolerance for religion compared to other countries in western Europe. It also has the highest incidence of home-grown terrorism.

I personally am anti-religious at my very core when it comes down to it but on this one you are just straight up wrong.

Higher standards of real education and knowledge, if we can ever achieve those, would gradually erode the grip of superstition over the generations (this has already started in Britain, IMO) but intolerance will do nothing but generate backlash. Intolerance IS one of the root causes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

France is one of the most secular, heavily non-religious (often anti-religious) places in the world and has very low tolerance for religion compared to other countries in western Europe. It also has the highest incidence of home-grown terrorism.

I personally am anti-religious at my very core when it comes down to it but on this one you are just straight up wrong.

Higher standards of real education and knowledge, if we can ever achieve those, would gradually erode the grip of superstition over the generations (this has already started in Britain, IMO) but intolerance will do nothing but generate backlash. Intolerance IS one of the root causes.

Well Nice has its fair share of immigrants in ghettos, a lot of islam is practised and there are mosques. The Nice killer was targeted and radicalised very quickly. Marseilles has 30-40% Muslim population.

The French themselves may be secular but their immigrant population sure are not

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Well Nice has its fair share of immigrants in ghettos, a lot of islam is practised and there are mosques. The Nice killer was targeted and radicalised very quickly. Marseilles has 30-40% Muslim population.

The French themselves may be secular but their immigrant population sure are not

Yes but that's the point; the native population are highly secular and intolerant of religious cultures and so reject integration strongly, leading to ghettoisation and isolation, which is what provides plenty of disenfranchised (usually) young and easily influenced individuals to radicalise. You're totally right that the problem lies in the insular communities and ghettos. These are not caused by multiculturalism, or "failing" multiculturalism, but a REJECTION of multiculturalism... And yet, your solution is to reject it even more strongly?

[Kizzy]

I do snippy well I've been told, usually when calling out prejudices too strangely, can I be a TS please?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I do snippy well I've been told, usually when calling out prejudices too strangely, can I be a TS please?

You mean, when you're ridiculing people who have a different opinion from you.

And you are already a TS.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

You mean, when you're ridiculing people who have a different opinion from you.

And you are already a TS.

Rude